Anyone ever driven one of these? Pics are of a 1997 80 series. A carb version of the 1FZ called the 1 FZ-F. Whats the advantage to the carb? Easier to work on in third world countries? Looks like a pretty sweet cruiser. I'd love a manual tranny.
80 series with a 1FZ-F
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You didn't mention where you saw this... is it in the US? Very odd. Any state with smog laws likely couldn't license it but that's just a guess.
I have a complete top end for a 94 1FZ-FE to retrofit EFI if you want modern day fuel distribution
All you would need is a ECU (separate engine and trans ECU's make this do-able!)
Very interesting....
I have a complete top end for a 94 1FZ-FE to retrofit EFI if you want modern day fuel distribution
All you would need is a ECU (separate engine and trans ECU's make this do-able!)
Very interesting....
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Non-usa model. I'm not sure which countries got this model. I was curious what the advantage the carb has over EFI for these markets, simplicity? Always thought EFI was more reliable. Maybe able to use poor quality gas?
... and a manual tranny! Yum!
none really ex maybe cheaper.....which seems to fit the theme of the model
I used to think carbs could burn a lesser quality of fuel...till I told that to my Toyota mechanic friend.
I used to think carbs could burn a lesser quality of fuel...till I told that to my Toyota mechanic friend.
After playing many times with carb's on 2F's I would not wish to go back to one to save my life.
I love my 1FZ-FE
I love my 1FZ-FE
I think these are common in South America. I've heard of some in the middle east too, for some odd reason. I think the reason for those areas is that gas is extremely cheap compared to diesel, which is the preferred fuel for most everywhere else, except the U.S. The head is different too, made of iron, like the block I understand. The advantage is minimal electronics. No ECU, less wiring, no computers required for diagnosis. Probably safer for water crossings too. I'll bet with the iron head, the motor is even more durable and longer lasting than the 1FZ we all know and love.
Something like this would be nicer to have out in the jungle in the middle of nowhere were almost all the other vehicles are old carb models and parts are slim and most importantly, local mechanics are used to simple old school type vehicles.
I wouldn't want one for the states, but it would probably be a good idea to have for an expedition type work in really remote and primative parts of the world.
Something like this would be nicer to have out in the jungle in the middle of nowhere were almost all the other vehicles are old carb models and parts are slim and most importantly, local mechanics are used to simple old school type vehicles.
I wouldn't want one for the states, but it would probably be a good idea to have for an expedition type work in really remote and primative parts of the world.
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Those 1FZ-F's were pretty common down here until '97 or so, we didn't get the EFI engine until around '98... And it lasted another 10 years 
And manual 80's are pretty sweet, I would know; I have one as my DD.
And manual 80's are pretty sweet, I would know; I have one as my DD.
Yes those are popular in south america, mine is a 94 with the 1FZ-F engine, VX trim (sunroof, subtank, rear AC, fridge), gas here in Colombia is not cheap (it's in Venezuela) and you get less MPG so the only "advantage" you get is not having to deal with electronics which can make a difference when traveling in remote areas.
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The real reason for those simple engines are this .. keep it as simple as posible. Where the emisions are not a issue .. carbs just do the job and do it fine.
Who cares, I say a sharp stick in the eye to whomever made it possible for those rigs not to be sold here.
I guess I still believe in less expensive quality vehicles, you know, what made Toyota so big here but they have since forgotten?
Would love to buy a new 45..... bet that'd be ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!
by now 
Toyota? I'm off, I've bought the newest I'll ever have of them.
All these (no disrespect intended) country's we think are 3rd world have the rigs we cant afford.
whats up with that?
I guess I still believe in less expensive quality vehicles, you know, what made Toyota so big here but they have since forgotten?
Would love to buy a new 45..... bet that'd be ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!
by now Toyota? I'm off, I've bought the newest I'll ever have of them.
All these (no disrespect intended) country's we think are 3rd world have the rigs we cant afford.
whats up with that?
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There was one at GSMTR in '05. Alex brought one up from Miami (via:Venezuela) with a full exo and a 6" lift. Went up lower 2 but had to pull line once or twice.
That particular carb version of LC was in the Philippines when Drexx was browsing around the dealership as seen here: https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/31431-carbureted-1997-fzj-80-found.html
I guess being a carb model don't have to tinker with too much electronics and efi stuff and easy for developing countries to maintain.
How do you like it t? Wish we could get that setup here.....
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Very simple reason for using a carb: cost. The cost of a single carb and related items is significantly cheaper than 6 fuel injectors, O2 sensors, computer, manifold, etc. So if emissions aren't an issue a carb does just fine for a lot less money which means more profit.
My 97 FZJ80 GXR has that engine, but since I overhauled the engine a few months back, the internals (complete pistons) are from the 100 series.
I wonder how much more fuel efficient is the 5speed carb 1FZ-F engine over our EFI 1FZ auto counterpart, any insight?
^its probably less efficient
seems like a very sophisticated engine to get a carb
seems like a very sophisticated engine to get a carb
