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Going against the grain and installing lower ratio ring-and-pinion gears instead of the more popular and trendy transfer case gears. I pulled the diffs and handed them to a local guy who has something of a reputation for attention to detail and bulletproof setups. One of the few things I don't feel comfortable tackling myself, too much voodoo involved. The end result should help quite a bit with pulling my camping and work trailers. We shall see...
 
You'll be pleased to be back in the powerband
 
Got the diffs back, and some encouraging words from the installer. Lots of progress pics as well as the work was being done. Now to heave those beotches back in their holes...
 
Got the diffs back, and some encouraging words from the installer. Lots of progress pics as well as the work was being done. Now to heave those beotches back in their holes...


Hi Spike-
I can post the 53 pics of the rear 9.5" right here. You'll like the power on take-ff with a trailor....as said earlier, give the new gears a little time to break in ;) Synthetic oil is a good thing to use for towing applications.......


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did the cat help?

nice work sir!
 
The full gear setup write-up picfest is here- http://gearinstalls.com/benrearfront.htm

I got the install done Friday evening and drove it to dinner, then today I drove it across town to Tempe, mostly on the freeway. Love the power, and RPM's were at 2800@70MPH (professional driver on a closed track, do not attempt this at home, yadda yadda yadda-), which leaves plenty of headroom should I want to go faster. I am very happy with ratio selection. The actual MPH is about 10% lower than indicated on the speedo, whereas before it was 20% higher. Since I often tow a trailer, I am pleased that the 5.29's paired with 37" tires gives me a lower-than-stock final ratio. I find myself doing the speed limit more often than not now, where prior to this I was always speeding, since I was paying attention to the speedo and ignoring the known error factor.

This is not for everyone though. People balk at the high price of the transfer case low-range reduction gear. This install cost me close to $2k, the vast majority of that being parts and supplies, with me doing all the diff install work myself. That job requires removing the front calipers, drive plates, hubs, spindles and associated parts, birfs and axles, tie rod, and the rear axles. The rear diff was a major bitch to heave in, and the front was no picnic either. Then there are some gaskets that needed replacement during the install. If my axles weren't fresh I would have had to add a front axle kit and all the extra work involved. The transfer case gear install only requires the removal of the case, and the gear install can be done by anyone who gets themselves that far into the job- no magic powers and mystic pattern-reading skills required, it's pretty straightforward. I only opted for diff gears for the towing benefits. The truck was certainly driveable with 4.11's, if a bit slow off the line. I do love the giddyup now though, feels very like stock.

Tomorrow I'll go run a trail and find out how low-range feels. :D
 
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The full gear setup write-up picfest is here- http://gearinstalls.com/benrearfront.htm

I got the install done Friday evening and drove it to dinner, then today I drove it across town to Tempe, mostly on the freeway. Love the power, and RPM's were at 2800@70MPH (professional driver on a closed track, do not attempt this at home, yadda yadda yadda-), which leaves plenty of headroom should I want to go faster. I am very happy with ratio selection. The actual MPH is about 10% lower than indicated on the speedo, whereas before it was 20% higher. Since I often tow a trailer, I am pleased that the 5.29's paired with 37" tires gives me a lower-than-stock final ratio. I find myself doing the speed limit more often than not now, where prior to this I was always speeding, since I was paying attention to the speedo and ignoring the known error factor.

This is not for everyone though. People balk at the high price of the transfer case low-range reduction gear. This install cost me close to $2k, the vast majority of that being parts and supplies, with me doing all the diff install work myself. That job requires removing the front calipers, drive plates, hubs, spindles and associated parts, birfs and axles, tie rod, and the rear axles. The rear diff was a major bitch to heave in, and the front was no picnic either. Then there are some gaskets that needed replacement during the install. If my axles weren't fresh I would have had to add a front axle kit and all the extra work involved. The transfer case gear install only requires the removal of the case, and the gear install can be done by anyone who gets themselves that far into the job- no magic powers and mystic pattern-reading skills required, it's pretty straightforward. I only opted for diff gears for the towing benefits. The truck was certainly driveable with 4.11's, if a bit slow off the line. I do love the giddyup now though, feels very like stock.

Tomorrow I'll go run a trail and find out how low-range feels. :D


Super Charger next:idea::flipoff2:

Sounds like they ended up being perfect for your needs:clap:
 
The full gear setup write-up picfest is here- http://gearinstalls.com/benrearfront.htm

I got the install done Friday evening and drove it to dinner, then today I drove it across town to Tempe, mostly on the freeway. Love the power, and RPM's were at 2800@70MPH (professional driver on a closed track, do not attempt this at home, yadda yadda yadda-), which leaves plenty of headroom should I want to go faster. I am very happy with ratio selection. The actual MPH is about 10% lower than indicated on the speedo, whereas before it was 20% higher. Since I often tow a trailer, I am pleased that the 5.29's paired with 37" tires gives me a lower-than-stock final ratio. I find myself doing the speed limit more often than not now, where prior to this I was always speeding, since I was paying attention to the speedo and ignoring the known error factor.

This is not for everyone though. People balk at the high price of the transfer case low-range reduction gear. This install cost me close to $2k, the vast majority of that being parts and supplies, with me doing all the diff install work myself. That job requires removing the front calipers, drive plates, hubs, spindles and associated parts, birfs and axles, tie rod, and the rear axles. The rear diff was a major bitch to heave in, and the front was no picnic either. Then there are some gaskets that needed replacement during the install. If my axles weren't fresh I would have had to add a front axle kit and all the extra work involved. The transfer case gear install only requires the removal of the case, and the gear install can be done by anyone who gets themselves that far into the job- no magic powers and mystic pattern-reading skills required, it's pretty straightforward. I only opted for diff gears for the towing benefits. The truck was certainly driveable with 4.11's, if a bit slow off the line. I do love the giddyup now though, feels very like stock.

Tomorrow I'll go run a trail and find out how low-range feels. :D


Glad you like them. :) The gears will run even cooler as they break in ;)
Ken
 
Trial trail run went great. Was comfortable in high range much further into the run than usual, only went to low in the areas where speed wasn't an option anymore. I was worried because I'm used to going to low as soon as I hit dirt for the power and control, but I knew with a 30% loss of top end my normal comfortable top speed of 40mph was going to be more like 25. Now I'm very happy with high range right up to the point where the terrain is too rough for 10+mph. There isn't as drastic a change in the feel of low range- the truck has never failed to do an obstacle for lack of power in low. I expected shifts to be much more jolting, but I'm not noticing a big difference. Everything is easier. Best mod since bigger tires and lift.

I caught that 'break in' remark. :p Don't worry, I'm putting lots of low-speed mileage on the truck. The wheeling was 95% dirt roads, with some moderate rock garden excercise, no undercut ledges or hard climbs- although I did have to pull my partner up a sandy bank (33" BFT AT's don't cut it uphill in deep sand). The gears are getting the easiest duty I can give them, considering the truck is primarily used for recreation and only sees pavement on the way to the next camp or trail.
 
Sounds good. Hope the gears contintue to perform well. Have ykou considered activating 4th gear (OD) for low range? Many of us have. You should be able to run 35+ that way without stopping to shift back into hi range. John
 
OD works just fine in low... must be a '95+ thing you speak of.
 
I can get 40-45 in low range
OD works just fine in low... must be a '95+ thing you speak of.
tops, but cruises easily at 35+. If your only 25% lower than me, you should be able to run a lot more than 25 in low. Just thinkin............
 
I can get 40-45 in low range
OD works just fine in low... must be a '95+ thing you speak of.
tops, but cruises easily at 35+. If your only 25% lower than me, you should be able to run a lot more than 25 in low. Just thinkin............
 
25 was a guess at a 'comfortable' cruising speed in low. Doesn't matter now, unless the trail involves constantly switching from crawling to high speed running, I won't be shifting often. I can use high range much more now offroad, and on road, without feeling like I have to floor it all the time. My biggest complaint about my truck has been solved.
 
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