3rd Row SIDE facing seats

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Saw on cruiserparts that they have a set of side facing 3rd row seats. Does anyone have these? Do they weigh less than the forward facing seats? I'm contemplating on buying them, as I have a somewhat use for the 3rd row, 9 passenger capability and smaller intrusion in the rear is beneficial.

Also saw there is some drilling needed...
 
I've got no input here, but that's pretty cool! Can't say I've ever seen that on a 100-series before. Why is it that the US auto market always gets screwed over with the cool bells and whistles? (fist shake) :crybaby:
 
Aren't those called suicide seats? I'm not sure how well loved ones would do in the event of an accident in those.
 
^^pics?
 
Those come in the poverty package 100s that they have overseas, same style of troop seats you see in the 76 series wagon. The holes/bracketry to fit those style ain't there, so you'd have to do a bit of modification. Also, I don't know if structurally you'd have a good place to mount the seatbelts.

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From the web site.
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Why is it that the US auto market always gets screwed over with the cool bells and whistles? (fist shake) :crybaby:

Could be less bell/whistle and more of a death trap. Maybe the DOT will not allow import of such in a passenger vehicle to the US anymore. Last available suicide seat in the US on the 40 series from what I have seen.

I think it would be cool as hell to have one of them.
 
When the only concern is hitting a donkey cart this is just fine. If you lived in South America and couldn't really drive over 25 mph because of rough road conditions these would be sweet. On a freeway at 75, four adults or even children packed into the back of the SUV with only lapbelts sitting sideways with their heads against the glass is a death trap.

I don't even like to put people in the 3rd row for more than local 25-35 mph traffic. It's just not safe back there. It wasn't until the 200 series that they actually designed safety into the 3rd row.
 
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Here's a bit on 3rd row safety: (not specific to the LC)

"In addition, a child seated in the third row is not necessarily safer in a frontal collision than a child in the second row. A 2005 study by Transport Canada (the Canadian equivalent of the NHTSA) showed that youngsters are likely to face the same forces in a frontal collision regardless of whether they are seated in the second or third row of the vehicle. The study, which involved a crash test dummy representing a 6-year-old seated in a booster seat in the second and third rows, found equally elevated forces in both rows.

Plus, third-row occupants are at greater risk than second-row occupants in rear-end and side-impact collisions, because they're closer to the rear of the vehicle in a rear impact and are even less likely to have side airbags to protect them. Currently, only about 55 percent of vehicles with third-row seating have side airbags that cover all three rows. And bear in mind that even if your vehicle does have three-row side curtain airbags, they may not extend down far enough to protect children. (For more on this topic, see our article, "Who Benefits From Side and Head Airbags?")

Third-row occupants are also vulnerable to flaws in the seatback's design when they're involved in rear-end collisions. Many seatbacks are either too rigid, which can cause whiplash, or too yielding, which can cause the seat to partially or fully collapse, allowing the occupant's head to contact the rear window, liftgate or even an intruding vehicle in a severe crash. This is particularly a concern in small and midsize SUVs, where the third-row seatback is usually much closer to the rear window than in full-size SUVs. In an informal survey of vehicles with three rows, distances between the third row and the rear window ranged from 8 to 33 inches, with the smaller SUVs generally having the shortest distances.

Is 8 inches or even 1 foot enough space? It depends not only on the strength of the seatback, but on the other safety features built into the vehicle. When Toyota, for example, added an optional third row to the Highlander midsize SUV, it included extra bracing around the rear door opening, along both sides of the cargo bay and up over the rear wheels to help channel the energy away from occupants during a crash.

Volvo considers 12 inches the minimum safe distance between the head of a third-row occupant and the back of the vehicle, according to company spokesperson Dan Johnston. Even with that amount of space, the company has reinforced the rear and tailgate of its XC90 midsize SUV with boron and ultrahigh-strength steel to reduce the possibility of intrusion into the passenger space."

http://www.edmunds.com/car-safety/how-safe-are-rear-seat-passengers.html
 
AimCOtaco said:
. Last available suicide seat in the US on the 40 series from what I have seen..

1997 Land Rover Defender 90
 
Having had a MB wagon with an an old school rear facing 3rd row and getting rear ended on an interstate with only the bumper damaged I feel as I can say the standard 3rd row in a NA spec LC is safe. This would be particularly true in the case of a side impact while sitting over the rear axle.
 
1997 Land Rover Defender 90

What kind of Toyota is that?

I got a little narrow minded and was only thinking Cruizers...

And ok, apparently pass so I don't get sued.

Or don't transport anyone who would later sue you? Might be nice as mentioned around town and camp or when you want a short carpool to the boat ramp etc..
 
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