1966 FJ40 help needed

[Cee Jay]

I have already fixed that. I bought used, low milage '66 axles and driveshafts, bought new u-bolts and spring plates from Proffitt's(very nice quality and exactly like stock), and bolted them on top of the springs. I am waiting on new u-joints to put the driveshafts in, and need to find corresct brake hoses to hook up the brakes.

 

[Dusty 66]

Body looks In great condition.

 

[My wife said no FJ!]

Well you have one of the best Land Cruiser Historians real close, Northern Scottsdale, John Pendle, AKA on IH8MUD "living in the past" you can find him in the FJ25 section of this forum. He can talk your ear off about l/c trivia, so listen good. HTH John Pardi

I'll second Pardion's comments, John 'living in the past' is a true LC master

BTW, nice rig Dusty just finished his '66, so look at his past threads...including the 9mm brake lines. Dusty did a really great job!!

How about posting some shots of your Jeeps?

 

[landcruisers4ever]

sweet Jeep eater...

really though thats a nice cruiser and I look forward to seeing your build, im sure you will find all of the info ou could ever want on this site

 

[Hogan]

Man that looks like a real nice start to a project. I also can't wait to see more of the build/restore.

 

[Cee Jay]

Just when I thought I had a pretty original '66, I dug into the carb situation to return it to stock. Someone had put a Holly 2bb with a Downey conversion adapter. The throttle situation was really messed up (chopped cable setup) as well. I just happened to get the SOR catalog in the mail today and looked at the intake/carb pages to find out that mine has the intake of the 68 to 74 FJs! CRUD! I guess that is a good thing for parts, but sucks for originality. My engine serial is "F 266687". Does this indicate anything??? What do I have????? I am kind of bummed right now by this. oh well..........

 

[Dusty 66]

yep my 66 came the same carburetor & Delco distributor and a cracked head to boot... you could find the original 1F stuff need to get a hold of MARK @ Marks Off Road Home Page check in the IH8MUD Classifieds lot of 1F around
Sounds like you might have a 68 motor SOR site only go back to Aug. 1969 Vin #290409 can you come up with a casting ### on Left side of block
Specter Off-Road, Inc.-Landcruiser Parts & Accessories -Engine Serial Numbers

https://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series-tech/249338-engine-year-identification.html

 

[psreno]

Did the '66's have alternators? That's one upgrade to keep.

The old 20A(whatever) generators suck. At least mine did.

 

[Dusty 66]

Did the '66's have alternators? That's one upgrade to keep.

The old 20A(whatever) generators suck. At least mine did.

yes external regulator 40 and 55 AMP

 

[Cee Jay]

After more research, I have found out that there was an intake/carb setup from the factory that does not show up in the SOR catalog, AND when I called, they had no idea of its existence and assured me that I had an engine swap. The secret is this: I have an original parts manual from 1967. It shows this intake/carb setup, which appears to be a transition from the old cast iron intake to aluminum intake, and only specific to a year or so. The carb is a single barrel, like the early ones, but has a factory aluminum adapter plate that converts it to the later 4-bolt intake. The adapter plate has a large tube that comes out the side for the oil fill tube/PCV hose and a small tube that comes out for the distributor. The intake itself has 4 symetrical cast bolt holes on the side of it, to which the old style oil filter setup bolts. As we all know, the 68ish intake had 3 holes to which the spin-on filter would bolt and the early intakes had no holes. My 1967 partsmanual shows all of these parts EXACTLY as they are in my FJ. So, I probably DO have the original engine, which just has the very odd transition carb/intake setup, and of which SOR has no knowledge. I ALWAYS seem to get the odd stuff!

I am also missing the original mechanical carb throttle linkage(Figure B in the SOR catalog), so if anyone has one, and wants to convert to the cable setup, I can fund it!

Does anyone else have this setup, and on what year was it? I want to see when this setup started in production, and when it ended. This topic is probably worth its own thread, as many people may become confused by it and frustrated when they dont need to be.

 

[fj404life]

pics!

 

[CruisinMT]

do you have siamese ports (Circular) on your intake manifold? if not you may have a newer head which may be the reason for the adapter plate on your carb. here are some pics of my setup this was when i had a carter carb. And when I was rebuiding.

 

[Cee Jay]

I have not taken my intake off, but it does not have tubular runners like the "early" ones. Like I said, mine has the EXACT setup that is in my 1967 parts manual, oddball intake, oddball factory adapter and all. I will try to get the manual picture scanned, and take a picture of mine. I am surprised that a '67 would have the early style intake. Isn't 1967 when they finally figured out the aluminum intake manifold and switched to the screw on filter that bolted to the "3" holes in the side of the manifold???

 

[Dusty 66]

1966 should be oil bath air cleaner and canister oil filter. Siamese port head cast Iron intake and carter carburetor.

Spin on oil filters came in early 1969, but you could easily adapt from oil bath/canister to spin on and dry element air filter,

I did but had no choice at the time.

yep pictures are needed

 

[Cee Jay]

1966 should be oil bath air cleaner and canister oil filter. Siamese port head cast Iron intake and carter carburetor.

Carter? Why does the parts manual show an Aisin? Mine "came with" a single barrel Aisin. Also, what was the production date of your rig? If mine is exactly as in the '67 parts manual, it would be really odd that someone put in an engine from ONE year later. Then again, ive seen other stranger things, like a Chevy bolt pattern T18 transmission case from a school bus, of all things.

Another question: when a parts manual came out, was it for that year or the year before, etc? That is, would my 1967 parts manual be for the 66 production year, 66 sales year, 67 production year, 67 sales year, or maybe it was for the 68 production/sales???? Anyone know the answer to that??

 

[Cee Jay]

Here is pic of the engine, on the wrong side, of course, that I took in the beginning. Not sure if much can be told from it, but then again, maybe it can.

 

[Cee Jay]

Yes, I know, it has the "optional" battery tray with the rods on the long ends. Im changing that.

 

[Cee Jay]

Here are some scans from the 1967 parts manual. This is the manifold setup that I have on my 1966 FJ40, which appears to have been manufactured around June of 1965. I must have this head too. Is this head strange too??? Anyone else have this aluminum manifold setup? Notice the (4) cast holes in the side of the manifold instead of (3), and the adapter plate.

 

[Cruiser_Nerd]

If the number stamped on your block matches your VIN plate you've got the correct block. The intake that you describe, and the parts book picture, I understood to be the '67-'68 transition. However, maybe it had to do with the California emissions? Try Mark A. (65swb45) he should know off the top of his head. I'm leaning toward original though............ be interesting to know.

The two barrel carburetor, head and manifold was in Toyota's parts bin way before '66 for the trucks. It was just not used on the FJ, so anything is possible.
If you find that's what you had, and want to stay original, I may have that 2-1 barrel adapter for the Aisin.

Oh yeah, you might want to check the red breather hose on the valve cover. That is supposed to go to the air cleaner and allow clean air into the motor. It looks like it's diving down to the road, not much clean air down there. That, and two PCV valves in series are typical carb swap idiocy.......

 

[Melloj123]

Check out the ManAFre site under the garage sale tab. They have a 1 barrel adapter plate that they say is Toyota NOS. May be what you have.