All that thing needs is some clear coat to preserve the patina and some new tires.....done.
IH 1962 scout 80
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Outer dimensions yes, however the engine compartment is different enough between the 80 and 800's that a v8 in an 80 is not easy at all. And there is no freaking way I'd put a Jeep motor in this Scout.
Lol. Well, I thought the Jeep straight six was generally considered a decent engine. Not to say your plan isn't better, but it's been done. Have fun with those left handed lug nuts. http://www.binderplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92223
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I already discovered those rat bastage lug nuts.. Definitely made me grumpy..
I have a set of HZJ75 axles to swap into there. Bout the right width, and some MUCH upgraded braking.
The front end will be a radius arm suspension with coilovers. Question is, which radius arms to run? Rover stuff or Cruiser stuff?
I'd rather runa cruiser six than a Jeep six. But the Chevy V6 fits easier than all of them. The only jeep part that I want to run is a Grand Cherokee PS box like this.
I have a set of HZJ75 axles to swap into there. Bout the right width, and some MUCH upgraded braking.
The front end will be a radius arm suspension with coilovers. Question is, which radius arms to run? Rover stuff or Cruiser stuff?
I'd rather runa cruiser six than a Jeep six. But the Chevy V6 fits easier than all of them. The only jeep part that I want to run is a Grand Cherokee PS box like this.
Big Ed
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Not exactly, some 80s and 800s are the same(the ones with 4 cylinders). The difference came when a V8 was offered, it meant putting the engine all the way forward(the 4 cylinder is all the way back). The way the 4 cylinder sits at an angle, it fits into the cubby hole in the fire wall. The V8 wont fit in there, it's too wide.
The 4 cylinder is so far back that there is more than a foot between the grill and radiator. So this means the core support is right at the radiator. On Scouts that came from the factory with a V8, the core support is all the way against the grill. This means the welded in crossmember is in a different place.
So to put an IH V8 into a Scout that had a 4 cylinder(the way International did it), you would move the crossmember and core support forward. Then weld in motor mounts and bolt in the V8.......wallah.
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There are more variants than the frame crossmember and the radiator support. This thread outlines most of them.
http://www.binderbulletin.org/showthread.php?9481-Scout-80-tub-vs-800-tub
Also, why would anyone want to use a international v8? Lol
http://www.binderbulletin.org/showthread.php?9481-Scout-80-tub-vs-800-tub
Also, why would anyone want to use a international v8? Lol
Well, they're kinda like the Land Cruiser sixes: Not much power, very thirsty but built to last.
Big Ed
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I was only outlining the differences relevant to putting in a v8, that's what the discussion looked like.
That's what belongs in an International.
Lots of power for the little Scout.
Will bolt up to transmission from Scout II.
Puts a lot of weight up front for climbing.
Designed much tougher than other makes of V8.
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You mean like the differences in the firewall and trans tunnel? There were many tweaks that make it easier to add a V8 to a scout 800 that the 80 did not have. That is why Scout did them..
lol belongs...
4.3 has the same power and a 345 torque curve is almost identical as well. 190 ish HP with 235 ft lbs of torque.
Who cares what bolts up to the scout 2 transmission? None of them ever came with an overdrive...
Exactly what type of climbing are you referring to? Dirt roads? rockcrawling?
It's over 200 lbs heavier than a vortec V6. Cutting the fat improves climbing significantly.
The international V8's can't even compare to the power and longevity of the modern Chevy motors. 200, 300K and running perfectly are the norm now a days, not the exception.
And, the biggest reason that I'm not going with a International motor is because I don't want one. Scout axles suck too, that is why I am not going to use them as well..
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Mace, hows it goning man? You ever put that fj60 rear end from Denver to use? I like what you're doing with the little Scout. I have been an international guy since before I was even born and have had several of them, including the famed 1980 factory Nissan turbo diesel complete with close ratio t18 transmission and Dana 300 t-case. It was a slow dog that started way too hard. I will be following your post's. I think a little v-6 with overdrive will be a nice addition to bring the old girl into the 20th century. If you need some rare part I might have one laying around or at least know where to get one. Lovin that strange top. Might consider running a centered Dana 44 and a factory chevy t-case to keep cost's down ie no adapter plate required.
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What's up amigo, that rear 60 axle is under a 40 tub that will be turned into a trail trailer. But that's another project 
I got a set of HZJ75 axles to stuff under this rig. I was contemplating keeping the D18, but I think a cruiser split tcase will be much better off in the long run. Much quieter and stronger.
All I really need is a 700R4 and the split tcase (and adapter) to have the drivetrain lined out. Then it comes down to just working on the body (a ton of work).
I got a set of HZJ75 axles to stuff under this rig. I was contemplating keeping the D18, but I think a cruiser split tcase will be much better off in the long run. Much quieter and stronger.
All I really need is a 700R4 and the split tcase (and adapter) to have the drivetrain lined out. Then it comes down to just working on the body (a ton of work).
I'm playing with scouts and ram cummins these days.Trying to decide what to re-power my 79 196 4 banger scout 2 that I got from my grandmother with. Maybe an LS motor or a 4bt perhaps a 266 that I already have???? That 40 trailer will be sweet. I smell what you're stepping in with 700r4 and an adapter, shoot if you already got some decent axles.... Have you started messing with suspension yet? BTW diggin that floater in the rear.
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Rear suspension is going to be 57" chevies sprung under. Front will be 80 series radius arms and coilovers. Gotta bring this truck at least into the 90's lol..
I had the minions tearing it apart yesterday.
I had the minions tearing it apart yesterday.
murf
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Minions sure come in handy!
Growing up we had a 1967 and 1972 Internaltional Travelalls. Dads hunting partners both had late 60's Scouts.
Good stuff - glad to see one being put back on the road
Growing up we had a 1967 and 1972 Internaltional Travelalls. Dads hunting partners both had late 60's Scouts.
Good stuff - glad to see one being put back on the road
arcteryx
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Jas- nice seeing you again at Roundup. Thanks for telling me about this, I am sub'd!
Update?
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Not much, the mirror tranny tcase are out. I need to pick up the adapter between the split tcase and the 700r4. Before much else happens. Dan things are pricy tho.
