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Blue 60

Blue 60

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For all of you who own offroad trailers, how tall are the sidewalls of the bed/tub? I know that several of you have M416s (or similar mil. trailer) or have Safari Trailers (or similar...) What are your thoughts on sidewall height? I'm looking at designing and building my own custom trailer and want to know what issues you are all having with your trailers, or what you really like about them...

I would love to own a M416 or an Adventure Trailer, but reality says what will really be getting the most use of the trailer is plywood and drywall and 2x's and yard waste. I was thinking of making something between a M103 and the "milspec" (???) trailer that was posted a while back. The inside dimesions I am planning on for now are 6'-0" long x 4'-0 1/2" wide x 20" deep w/ a drop down gate taht would make up most of the 8' length. But here is my question. Will 20" clear a military/nato gas can? A propane tank? something else I haven't thought of yet??? I might build some kind of a hinged lid for it down the road... and/or do a basket like on the "milspec" tralier.... I like the front end of the "Adventure Trailer" w/ the water tank, gas storage, and tool box.

So, give me some thoughts.
 
My trailer was built with 27" sides - to fit standard Blitz cans fore and aft of the fenders on both sides. The bottom is 48-1/2" wide inside and 73" long. It has a lid hinged in the front.

M
 
My M416 has 18" tall sides My NATO cans are 18 1/2" tall. I like that the handles are up enough so I can run a strap through them.

The 416 is a great trailer for camping, hauling brush, materials and such, but, if you are going to get e new dryer or something the lack of a tailgate is a problem as you have to lift everything up and over.

It would float with a dryer in it though, as long as it isn't over 500#.

I can post pics if necissary.

Dave
 
cruiseroutfit said:
Any pics? :D
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Kurt -

I'll try to take some and post tomorrow. My old hosting site was moved - lost my photos for posting.

M

PS:

Thanks for the link on your site. Much appreciated!
 
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This dimension stamp was scanned off during my M416 sandblasting.

The overall outside AND inside dimensions works for me. As for transporting large 4 x 8 plywoods (most important requirement for my need), 3 wood racks (few inches wider than 48") is fitted on the top of my M416 in order to support large plywoods or pop up tent.
 
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My preference is to carry jerry cans *outside* of the trailer, as I use the inside to carry camping equipment, clothes, kitchen gear and food. Here's a picture of how I secured two 5 gallon jerry cans to my trailer. I've since replaced them with fresh water cans, but they're the same dimension:
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Exiled said:
My preference is to carry jerry cans *outside* of the trailer, as I use the inside to carry camping equipment, clothes, kitchen gear and food. Here's a picture of how I secured two 5 gallon jerry cans to my trailer. I've since replaced them with fresh water cans, but they're the same dimension:
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Great pic... Care if I borrow it? (all credits go to the owner :D)

Did you make that jerry can holder? Or is that a commercially available one?
 
I am still trying to decide on a mounting location for my Fuel & Water Can, I hope to run 2 of each, but as Exiled mentioned, I'm not big on the idea of putting my fuel in with my clothing, power accessories, etc.

So my options are the back (I have a OEM spare tire mount on one side), the sides (I'm not too keen on this due to the width I will end up with), or the tongue of the trailer... More pics guys! :D
 
Exiled said:
My preference is to carry jerry cans *outside* of the trailer, as I use the inside to carry camping equipment, clothes, kitchen gear and food. Here's a picture of how I secured two 5 gallon jerry cans to my trailer. I've since replaced them with fresh water cans, but they're the same dimension:
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The nice thing about that style can is that it doesn't need to be stored upright.

Snook, I like the steps that you integrated to the fenders.
 
Here is mine. You can use these images as you wish.
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MoGas said:
Snook, I like the steps that you integrated to the fenders.
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Thanks however this steps not only serve as step but it also:
- protected the wheel fender from bending.
- allows this trailer to rub againist trees & rocks in very tight turns like a slider.

I never thought this liquid container can use store sideway! no leakage at all?

FYI, when I first picked up my trailer from the Marine air base near San Deigo after winning the bid thru internet. To my horror, they painted the trailer with flat white only few months ago, covering up all the rust stains for photo opps on internet web site.

So at first, the photo you see on my driveway doesn't seems that bad but it was really badly rust inside all over hence a very time consuming and messy sandblast work afterward.

Regards,
 
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Mine has no rust. I bought it from Hltoppr maybe 5-6 years ago. I believe it was from a guard unit in New Mexico but I can't be sure.


I'd like to use your step/protecter idea on mine if you don't mind.
 
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Snook,
I think yours is actually a 716 that has a 416 tub on it.
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This happened alot from what I understand. the M416 and M716 share frames the 716 was a portable generator or flatbed trailer that is why you have the tiedown loops on the frame and for whatever reason, over the last 35 or so years that trailer has been in use, someone put a 416 tub on it. Does yours have service brakes or just a parking prake? That would make it a M416B/M716B


Dave
 
Kurt:

Here is the trailer... The trailer was designed by me, and built by Wayne Percival of Dixon. CA.

It has the following equipment:

• Steel box and frame – powder coated
• Aluminum lid with 4 gas rams – powder coated
• Drop down tail gate with lockable slam latch and security pins
• HD Axle – 6 on 5.5”
• Removeable, adjustable tongue with swiveling Lunette
• Spare tire carrier
• 31 X 10.50 X 15 tires – I have a set of stock FJ60 wheels that will go on it soon
• Mounts for 4 gas cans – two in front of the axle, two behind
• 38 Gallon water tank, with pump and drain
• Delta Diamond Plate Trailer tongue box
• 2 - 105 AH deep draw marine batteries
• Wired with two yellow running lights, two red brake and signal lights – same as the cruiser.

I have towed it about 10,000 miles so far with no problems – except I had a “California Courtesy Stop” by a state trooper in Eastern Oregon two weeks ago.

Mike S

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MoGas said:
Snook,
I think yours is actually a 716 that has a 416 tub on it.
6a1fbcc4.jpg

This happened alot from what I understand. the M416 and M716 share frames the 716 was a portable generator or flatbed trailer that is why you have the tiedown loops on the frame and for whatever reason, over the last 35 or so years that trailer has been in use, someone put a 416 tub on it. Does yours have service brakes or just a parking prake? That would make it a M416B/M716B


Dave
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That's interesting. I though the M416 with tiedown loops as part of Marine's specification so it can be lifted to the ship and strapped down for rapid deployment.

My M416 only have a parking brake.

This may explained why there is no serial number or any other info. stamped on the metal plate on the tub.
 
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MoGas said:
I'd like to use your step/protecter idea on mine if you don't mind.
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Go ahead. It does helps to have some basic welding experience.

FYI, due to the tub's design, only the front steps is bolted to the tub AND frame while the rear steps with angle tube is welded to the tub for extra stiffness due to a new tailgate opening.
 
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