295 75r16 vs. 285 75r16

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I'm leaning heavily towards the Nitto TG's. Now the decision is what size to get? 285's or 295's. Planning to get tbars very soon also...

Does anyone have a pic of their 100 with 285 or 295 Nitto TG's? Thanks
 
Get 295. I have 285 and wish I went to 315. 285 lok small on 100 series.
 
295's on stock. I really dig the Nits.
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Terra Grappler ply rating

Nitto does not list what ply or ply rating the Terra Grappler has for tread and sidewall construction. Do you know? Have you used these tires in rock? How are they for puncture resistance on rock?

Spressomon
 
Sp:

I believe they are 4 ply. I would not recommend them in rocks. They are essentially BFG At's.
 
Do they come in 305s? I like a little wider.
 
Jukelemon said:
Sp:

I believe they are 4 ply. I would not recommend them in rocks. They are essentially BFG At's.

AT KO's are excellent and very durable in the rocks. Better than the MT KM's on my 80. :)
(The AT's flex over the rocks better when at 18PSI too.)
 
These metric sizes make no sense to me at all. 305s are the same height as my 285s :confused: .
 
NMuzj100 said:
These metric sizes make no sense to me at all. 305s are the same height as my 285s :confused: .

Am I confused? I thought 285 or 305 was a measure (in mm) of the width of the tread, not height? And 70 or 75 (or whatever) was a measure of the sidewall as a percentage of the tread - i.e. a 285/75 would have a sidewall of approximately 213mm (75% of 285).
 
you are not confused.
 
Jukelemon said:
Sp:

I believe they are 4 ply. I would not recommend them in rocks. They are essentially BFG At's.


4 ply would be nice. My BFG AT's are 3 ply. No matter what anyone says, my 100 is not now or never will be a "rock crawler". They are essentially BFG's only they cost $50 per tire less and easier to balance:) Looking for a good trail tire for mild and moderate trail wheeling about once evey 4-6 weeks.

And since I have some concerns about the sidewalls, I will buy the damage replacement certificates. And yes, all BFG's are under equipped for "rock crawling". Especially on a heavier vehicle.

I like the look of the 295's so I'm leaning that way.
 
calamaridog said:
4 ply would be nice. My BFG AT's are 3 ply. No matter what anyone says, my 100 is not now or never will be a "rock crawler". They are essentially BFG's only they cost $50 per tire less and easier to balance:) Looking for a good trail tire for mild and moderate trail wheeling about once evey 4-6 weeks.

And since I have some concerns about the sidewalls, I will buy the damage replacement certificates. And yes, all BFG's are under equipped for "rock crawling". Especially on a heavier vehicle.

I like the look of the 295's so I'm leaning that way.

Man, either you know nothing ( :) ) or I've been REALLY lucky ( :) ). 3 sets of KO's on the 100. Wild trails, most of them without lockers (harder on tires) and no flats. Yes, LUCKY :D.

I am shocked though that your 100 has never and will never see rocks on the trail? :D
 
BFG's are ok but inadaquate for "rock crawling", unless you buy the Crawlers:) When I talk about rocks and rock crawling, they are two vary different things. Rock crawling is something you wouldn't do in your 80 without serious damage.

I have seen several shredded sidewalls on the trails caused by rocks. Plenty of times, they were BFG's. But for comparrison, I've never seen a Goodyear MTR shread a sidewall. Or a Swamper.

Personally, my BFG AT's have been very good trail tires, and yes there were some ROCKS! But I was never "rock crawling". And I haven't had any flats either, due to the skilled tire placement LOL.
 
ATLcrusher said:
Am I confused? I thought 285 or 305 was a measure (in mm) of the width of the tread, not height? And 70 or 75 (or whatever) was a measure of the sidewall as a percentage of the tread - i.e. a 285/75 would have a sidewall of approximately 213mm (75% of 285).

Actually the 285/295/305 etc is measured from sidewall to sidewall, not tread width, not sure on american imperial specs but I think if a tyre is 12.5, that is the sidewall specs not the tread width

Passenger Tyre Sidewall Information

Example: P215/65R15 89H

"P" means this is a passenger car tyre (as opposed to a tyre made for a truck or other vehicle). P-metric is the U.S. version of a metric tyre-sizing system.

"215" Section Width: The width of the tyre in millimeters from sidewall to sidewall. This measurement varies depending on the width of the rim to which the tyre is fitted: larger on a wider rim, smaller on a narrow rim. The number on the side of tyre indicates the width measured with the tyre fitted to the recommended rim width.

"65" Aspect Ratio: The ratio of height to width; this tyre's height is 65% of its width.

“R" Construction: How the plies are constructed in the tyre carcass. "R" means radial. "B" in place of the "R" means the tyre is belted bias construction. "D" in place of the "R" means diagonal bias construction.

15" Rim Diameter: The diameter of the wheel in inches.

"89" Load Index: This tyre has an industry-standard maximum load of 580 kilogram. Different numbers correspond to different maximum loads. The maximum load is shown in lbs. (pounds) and in kg (kilograms), and maximum pressure in PSI (pounds per square inch) and in kPa (kilopascals). Kilograms and kilopascals are metric units of measurement.

"H"Speed Rating: This tyre has an industry-standard maximum service speed of 210 km per hour. Tyres using an older European system carry the speed rating in the size description: 215/65HR15. Different letters correspond to different maximum service speeds.

The letters "DOT" certify compliance with all applicable safety standards established by the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT). Adjacent to this is a tyre identification or serial number; a combination of numbers and letters with up to 11 digits.

The sidewall also shows the type of cord and number of plies in the sidewall and under the tread.

Tyre Grades: Uniform Tyre Quality Grading System or UTQG

Except for snow tyres, the DOT requires tyre manufacturers to grade passenger car tyres based on three performance factors: tread wear, traction and temperature resistance.

Tread Wear
# More Than 100 - Better
# 100 - Baseline
# Less Than 100 - Poorer The tread wear grade is a comparative rating based on the wear rate of the tyre when tested under controlled conditions on a specified government test track. A tyre graded 200 would wear twice as long on the government test track as one graded 100. Your actual tyre mileage depends upon the conditions of their use and may vary due to driving habits, service practices, differences in road characteristics and climate. Note: Tread wear grades are valid only for comparisons within a manufacturer's product line. They are not valid for comparisons between manufacturers.

Traction
# A - Best
# B - Intermediate
# C - Acceptable

Traction grades represent the tyre 's ability to stop on wet pavement as measured under controlled conditions on specified government test surfaces of asphalt and concrete. The Traction grade is based upon "straight ahead" braking tests; it does not indicate cornering ability

Temperature
# A - Best.
# B - Intermediate
# C - Acceptable

Load Index and Speed Rating

The temperature grades represent the tyre's resistance to the generation of heat when tested under controlled conditions on a specified indoor laboratory test wheel. Sustained high temperatures can cause the materials of the tyre to degenerate and thus reduce tyre life. Excessive temperatures can lead to tyre failure. Federal law requires that all tyres meet at least the minimal requirements of Grade C.

The speed rating is the maximum service speed of a passenger car tyre. Light truck tyres are not speed rated. Here is a list of rating indicators and their mile-per-hour equivalents. This rating system applies to all tyre makers.
Rating Maximum Speed
Q 99 mph
S 112 mph
T 118 mph
U 124 mph
H 130 mph
V Above 130 mph (without service description)
V 149 mph (with service description)
Z Above 149 mph

Light Truck Sidewall Information

"LT" stands for Light Truck

"LT235/85R16" is the size designation for a metric light truck tyre

"LOAD RANGE D" identifies the load and inflation limits

"RADIAL" indicates that the tyre has a radial construction

"MAX. LOAD SINGLE 2623 lbs. AT 65 psi COLD" indicates the maximum load rating of the tyre and corresponding minimum cold inflation pressure when used in a dual configuration. The other markings on the sidewall have the same meaning as described for the passenger car tyre.
 
calamaridog said:
BFG's are ok but inadaquate for "rock crawling", unless you buy the Crawlers:) When I talk about rocks and rock crawling, they are two vary different things. Rock crawling is something you wouldn't do in your 80 without serious damage.

I have seen several shredded sidewalls on the trails caused by rocks. Plenty of times, they were BFG's. But for comparrison, I've never seen a Goodyear MTR shread a sidewall. Or a Swamper.

Personally, my BFG AT's have been very good trail tires, and yes there were some ROCKS! But I was never "rock crawling". And I haven't had any flats either, due to the skilled tire placement LOL.

You said these were for your 100? You also said you're not going to be rock crawling? Sounds like the perfect situation for a KO to me?
Sure, I push my 100 and am crawling up rocks all the time. (I'll be at Chivo Saturday again with the Rovers...pic) The KO's will carry me through Moab I'm sure. No, I pray. :D I'm sure a KM would be better for me though it'd kill my ride.

Seriously though...for you...I can't imagine a better overall tire. :idea:
(Oh, and I've seen many a tire, MTR's included, shredded out there)
 
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sleeoffroad said:
The Nitta's have a more aggresive thread than the BFG, yet they are quieter. I even run them on my Chevy tow truck. Never did like a BFG AT tire.

We know.. You were an MTR dude. I knew there was something wrong with you? :D
 

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