6/9, latest update from Taryn @ Bilstein who continues to be awesome:
"The 5160’s should be something we could revalve in house, but it might be cost prohibitive compared with the price of the original shocks. Revalve service on a Bilstein shock is 127.50 each in our service center, which they also have a multiweek lead time now with current orders. But revalve on these would have to be something either done by Bilstein or one of our dealers, just because you do need a special hydraulic machine to open these non Schrader valve style shocks safely.
Our other shock series like 7100 and 8125 series are end user rebuildable because they do have a Schrader valve allowing a user to safely release the gas pressure before opening the shock to make changes. But 7100 and 8125 only come in eye to eye mounting and specific lengths.
You may want to reach out to our service center in California if you really were interested in trying to purchase one part number and having it sent in to be revalved custom. Though I’ll caution you they may not be able to provide much guidance on using one shock on another vehicle, as that’s a bit taboo just because we don’t want to say something will work that we can’t be sure of and have the vehicle damaged or the ride quality be poor. But it’s certainly a customer’s right to send in a shock and ask it be revalved, if they’re doing something custom and it is what they want to do. It just then falls on the customer to make sure the mounts will also fit properly, the extended and collapsed lengths will be correct for their custom project, and the shock will still pair well with the springs being used."
So.... By my math, here's what we need:
1x Bilstein 6112 part # 46-206084 - This is the Tundra part, the coilovers come as a pair - $649.99 on 4wheelparts
2x Bilstein 5160 part # 25-227611 - This is the FJ/4Runner part, they come as singles - $176.99 each (353.98 for the pair) on 4wheelparts
1x SPC 200 Series Upper Control Arms, part # 25465 - These come as a pair - $577.00 from Slee and others
1x Old Man Emu 2721, 2722, or 2723? Spring Set - These come as a pair - $214.70 on Amazon
2x Bilstein re-valving of the FJ 5160s to 255/70 or 270/78 - $127.50 each - $255 for the pair
Running total:
+$1268.97 on the Bilstein shocks + revalving (4wheelparts often has sales on these - can frequently save $100+ on this price)
+$791.70 on SPC UCAs + OME springs
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$2060.67 parts total (before any sales)
Are there any other pieces we need in order to do this? Assuming $500-800 labor for install + alignment?
Seems like an all-Bilstein setup is doable for ~$2500 installed and certainly less than $3k. That's at least $1600-$2100 cheaper than a BP-51 setup.
If BP-51s are among the best, are the BP-51s $1600-$2100 better?
"The 5160’s should be something we could revalve in house, but it might be cost prohibitive compared with the price of the original shocks. Revalve service on a Bilstein shock is 127.50 each in our service center, which they also have a multiweek lead time now with current orders. But revalve on these would have to be something either done by Bilstein or one of our dealers, just because you do need a special hydraulic machine to open these non Schrader valve style shocks safely.
Our other shock series like 7100 and 8125 series are end user rebuildable because they do have a Schrader valve allowing a user to safely release the gas pressure before opening the shock to make changes. But 7100 and 8125 only come in eye to eye mounting and specific lengths.
You may want to reach out to our service center in California if you really were interested in trying to purchase one part number and having it sent in to be revalved custom. Though I’ll caution you they may not be able to provide much guidance on using one shock on another vehicle, as that’s a bit taboo just because we don’t want to say something will work that we can’t be sure of and have the vehicle damaged or the ride quality be poor. But it’s certainly a customer’s right to send in a shock and ask it be revalved, if they’re doing something custom and it is what they want to do. It just then falls on the customer to make sure the mounts will also fit properly, the extended and collapsed lengths will be correct for their custom project, and the shock will still pair well with the springs being used."
So.... By my math, here's what we need:
1x Bilstein 6112 part # 46-206084 - This is the Tundra part, the coilovers come as a pair - $649.99 on 4wheelparts
2x Bilstein 5160 part # 25-227611 - This is the FJ/4Runner part, they come as singles - $176.99 each (353.98 for the pair) on 4wheelparts
1x SPC 200 Series Upper Control Arms, part # 25465 - These come as a pair - $577.00 from Slee and others
1x Old Man Emu 2721, 2722, or 2723? Spring Set - These come as a pair - $214.70 on Amazon
2x Bilstein re-valving of the FJ 5160s to 255/70 or 270/78 - $127.50 each - $255 for the pair
Running total:
+$1268.97 on the Bilstein shocks + revalving (4wheelparts often has sales on these - can frequently save $100+ on this price)
+$791.70 on SPC UCAs + OME springs
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$2060.67 parts total (before any sales)
Are there any other pieces we need in order to do this? Assuming $500-800 labor for install + alignment?
Seems like an all-Bilstein setup is doable for ~$2500 installed and certainly less than $3k. That's at least $1600-$2100 cheaper than a BP-51 setup.
If BP-51s are among the best, are the BP-51s $1600-$2100 better?
