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boise101

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Hello,

We have a 14BT for sale in Boise Idaho.

It is currently sitting in a 84 chassis, so it will have at least motor mounts to make that work.

$4995

We ship. We guarantee the engine is good, and we are a reputable business helping out a customer.

The rig might be for sale also.
 
it is a landcruiser chassis, swap done part way to where the engine is sitting in there.

Boss says it has a special flywheel, and uses the "stock" landcruiser transmission etc.

We can get compression numbers - to get oil pressure would mean firing it, which I suppose we could do for a very serious buyer.
 
boise101 said:
it is a landcruiser chassis, swap done part way to where the engine is sitting in there.

Boss says it has a special flywheel, and uses the "stock" landcruiser transmission etc.

We can get compression numbers - to get oil pressure would mean firing it, which I suppose we could do for a very serious buyer.
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Oh awesome! A special flywheel and "stock" transmission etc.

I have a fistfull of (some kind of) money here. Let's make a deal. I promise to be very serious.

There were three lengths of two door Land Cruisers in '84. Two styles of pickups. Two styles of wagons. To say '84 Land Cruiser chassis is a bit vague.

Seriously. It's a Land Cruiser forum, you should really come up with some specifics. If you don't know what you are selling some photos will help. The experts here will deciper what you have very quickly.
 
This is an awesome engine. Spallet on here dropped this into his BJ70. I have ridden in it and it has lots of torque and power. Its what the BJ70 should have been. Very rare in the US. Would like to see some pics of what it comes in.
 
Very vague post...pics would help your cause
 
It is a 14bt.

I took a bunch of pics - can take more.

Customer started this project in 2004, ran out of money. Been sitting for a long time out back.

Our company imported the engine straight from Japan in 2004 for a lot of money.

So I talked to my boss some more. He can't remember for sure what he did on the flywheel/clutch, but he knows it is a special clutch of some sort, and maybe a special flywheel, or a machined flywheel.

In any case, he built the system so it uses the stock toyota transmission and transfer case from teh landcruiser.

We are selling the engine, motor mounts, clutch, flywheel. The engine came as a JDM engine.

My boss says he doesn't even know if we have the tools to do a compression test on this engine, but he will guarantee it works. You can see the hoses which were cut when it came from Japan - it was fogged in Japan, shipped here, and stored ever since.

A bunch of pics -= very detailed.
glad to get more if you want.

http://www.import-engine.com/page11.html
 
lowenbrau said:
Oh awesome! A special flywheel and "stock" transmission etc.

I have a fistfull of (some kind of) money here. Let's make a deal. I promise to be very serious.

There were three lengths of two door Land Cruisers in '84. Two styles of pickups. Two styles of wagons. To say '84 Land Cruiser chassis is a bit vague.

Seriously. It's a Land Cruiser forum, you should really come up with some specifics. If you don't know what you are selling some photos will help. The experts here will deciper what you have very quickly.
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I'm not an expert in Land Cruisers. If you know someone else who is an expert, could you direct them to help us out?

how many different transmissions are there? Is there any difference in the chassis between the different rigs?

Why would it matter what kind of 84 chassis it is? If you know anyone smarter than the both of us who can answer these questions, I'd be appreciative.
 
Thanks for the photos. Now we know something. The truck started out as an '84 BJ60 so it should have an H55f transmission.

It is cool to have the hydraulic pump on the timing cover. I wish my 13BTs had that.

Good luck with the sale. For the price, there are way too many unknowns for me to be interested but I'm sure someone will snap it up.
 
what other transmissions were available in 84? Also, what chassis is going to be different enough to where the engine mounts won't work?

Also, i believe it is still 24 volt.

I asked my boss. He has complete confidence in the engine. How do we warranty the engine to where folks will be comfortable buying it, but we won't be responsible if someone starts it without oil or coolant?

We'd be willing to put it on ebay if the buyer pays the ebay fees. We have a 100 percent customer satisfaction on Ebay, and we do NOT want to risk that, but we do believe in this engine.
 
boise101 said:
what other transmissions were available in 84? Also, what chassis is going to be different enough to where the engine mounts won't work?

Also, i believe it is still 24 volt.

I asked my boss. He has complete confidence in the engine. How do we warranty the engine to where folks will be comfortable buying it, but we won't be responsible if someone starts it without oil or coolant?

We'd be willing to put it on ebay if the buyer pays the ebay fees. We have a 100 percent customer satisfaction on Ebay, and we do NOT want to risk that, but we do believe in this engine.
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Toyota built Land Cruisers in many shapes and sizes in 1984. US only got the body style that you have and it came with a manual 4 speed ( H42). Canada got that body style as well but with a 5 speed (H55) with an input shaft to suit the B series diesels. Japan had that same body style but with a five speed (H55) with an input to suit the h series of diesels or F series of gassers. Japan also got that body style with an auto (A440). In 84 you could also still get the 40 series in Canada and other markets and if you were in Japan or Europe you could get the 70 series in the later months of '84. When you said you'd consider selling the whole rig, it could have been any number of possibilities. As it is, the rig came from Canada originally. You're right, the engine mount location is of little consequence but knowing what transmission the engine is/was bolted up to is more important.

A warrantee doesn't mean much when the buyer and seller are unknown to each other and are located far apart. If you wanted to sell the engine to me you'd prove that it was good. Other JDM engine sellers ( GSCruiserparts for example) will stick the engine in a stand, connect a rad and run it up. They'll document oil pressure and compression numbers and prove the engine is good. They'd probably even take a video of it running. For $5k, a good mechanic would have that engine running by lunch. He'd spend a couple hundred on a compression gauge in order to make the sale. Hell I've run them up hanging from a picker with the fuel fed from a beercan.

That engine has some obsolete parts that you can no longer get from Toyota. For example, if you nicked the scavenger line with the chains while installing it your buyer is going have a very difficult time finding one. (I know this because I lost one once)

As it stands an old engine, covered in debris and cobwebs, sitting outside having not run in many years is worth its value as a core. I wouldn’t' chance it for more than half of what you're asking. Doing a little bit of work will get you a lot more money.

The fact that it is 24V isn't too big a deal. I don't think that alternator has a vacuum pump on it so it should be easy to swap for a 12V unit. A starter from an '84-85 BJ60 or 85 BJ70 should fit and will be 12V but any starter shop can also swap a 12V motor onto the 14B starter nosecone. If this engine has a rotary pump the run wire will likely work on 12V but it can be swapped if it won't. Everything else should run on vacuum. Many of your potential buyers would be looking to repower JDM or Canadian spec rigs which are 24 Volts anyway.

Hope this helps.
 
boise101 said:
what other transmissions were available in 84? Also, what chassis is going to be different enough to where the engine mounts won't work?

Also, i believe it is still 24 volt.

I asked my boss. He has complete confidence in the engine. How do we warranty the engine to where folks will be comfortable buying it, but we won't be responsible if someone starts it without oil or coolant?

We'd be willing to put it on ebay if the buyer pays the ebay fees. We have a 100 percent customer satisfaction on Ebay, and we do NOT want to risk that, but we do believe in this engine.
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few options...

A) wait til someone who has more money than common sense to buy it, sell it with your listing/pics/info as is..might take a while

B) sell it unchecked with a guarentee and run the risk of having a buyer run her with no oil/coolant costing you lots of money...risky but quicker sell

C) get the engine running and do an oil pressure test. I've run engines on pallets before..it's doable. Then do a warm compression test, video the start up/running of engine.

remove engine, Then remove pan and rod/main caps and take pics of BEB's and journals.

Then the warranty will speak for it's self..they are buying a good engine that is ready to go. Will cost you in labor but you don't have to sell with any sort of "i'll replace it if it's not a good engine" warranty. Sell it "as is" running engine so long a buyer doesnt' screw up the motor during install.

you feel sure about the sell, customer feels sure about the buy and everyone is happy, you lose labor but guarentee pretty quick sell

D) give it to me because you feel like making a charitable cause
 
We have used the same importer for 20 years.

Our importer uses special oil in Japan when they take the engine apart, and it is correctly stored.

It was inside our warehouse until recently.

We KNOW the engine is good, and we guarantee it.

We don't do things like start the engine on a cherry picker - that is how you tear things up and someone gets hurt. That is just silly.

An airport is only 15 minutes from us, and if anyone is serious they are welcome to fly in and look it over yourselves.

If someone wants to pay us to tear down the engine and take pics, send money and we'll get right on it.

This is a pretty neat engine.
 
boise101 said:
We KNOW the engine is good, and we guarantee it.
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The problem with this warranty is that someone would have to deal with shipping, etc to find out that it was dead, then what? get their money back? Who pays shipping both ways in that case?

No questions asked? No bitching and moaning about getting the refund? Doubt it. No offense.

boise101 said:
If someone wants to pay us to tear down the engine and take pics, send money and we'll get right on it.
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I'm sure I'm not the only one who would be interested to know what it would cost to get it cleaned (*), compression tested, pics of the bearings and a start-up video. I'd also need to know more about the flywheel; at least some detailed pictures.

Does it come with the clutch assembly? New?

If you imported it you should have available the number of km on it originally. I don't see that anywhere here.

* The fact you didn't clean it up before the pictures worries me. If it was all clean and pretty, sitting on a stand ready to be installed it would be worth a lot more to me.
 
I could be wrong, but in the second to last picture it looks like the oil filter head is shown without an oil filter. Not good.

Doug
 
If boat guy doesn't bite, send me a PM with your phone number. I'll call you and chat to see if we can work something out.
 
Not wanting to get involved in this since I'm NOT in the market but compression tests and oil pressure reading requests are common and a good thing to check. disassembly to take "bearing pics" is a load of BS! I wouldn't buy an engine which the owner took the bearing caps off of. Because the chances are EXTREMELY slim they are an engine builder. Improper torque or even torque sequence will kill the bearings. I doubt most people even have the literature to get the proper torque numbers.
 
I have seen alot of postings recently from Mud members replying to engines for sale that are harsh.

Seller doesn't have the info everyone demands prematurely, but replys to this thread are from uninterested parties.

It sounds like the seller has supplied pictures, given info they have available and is willing to work with a serious buyer.

Don't stab this newcomer because he is offering an engine to us first, regardless of cobwebs and dust. I would much rather have this honest representation of what you see is what you get, than some glam rocked tire shined engine with unrealistic figures.

He honestly portrayed the engine, spoke that it was ordered from Japan for a customer, believes his importer is honest and that the mileage is accurate and that he honestly believes in the engine and would even get the engine running if a buyer shows him the money. What more do you want? IMO, the engine appears to have very low KM, block paint is original and intact, shows to be original in every respect straight out of the container and by the look of seepage and lack of rust, would be from the right area of Japan to deserve respect.

I would love to pull my 1991 late model 'B' engine and replace with this in my ToyoAce, but logisitics are just not right.

Ih8Mud is the leading website to buy/sell/trade/share info, lets not scare anyone off with demands that are unwarranted. I check back often here to buy and sell, and hope that all involved believe this is the place to do so with respect.
 
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