toyota recommended oil for transfer case and differential and engine and transmission

[kwikrnu]

I just bought an 80 and I don't have a manual.
I tried to search but I couldn't really find anything.

What are the recommended fluids for a fzj80 ?

Mine is locked if that makes a difference. Thanks.

motor/engine
transmission
transfer case
axles
power steering
brake fluid
coolant

 

[Ting]

FAQ my friend...



https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=79305

 

[corsair23]

I tried to search but I couldn't really find anything.

Ok...Spend as much time as you need reading the entire 80 series FAQ as there is a HUGE amount of excellent information. Some of it is very worthwhile to print out and have in the vehicle with you!

https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=84888

Ting pointed you to the oil FAQ which is very helpful. Trust me there is a ton of information in the 80's section discussing just about everything including oil filters, grease, coolant, etc. etc. etc.

On the coolant, some prefer the green and some prefer the red, but in general most agree that you should stick with whatever color you currently have to avoid potential HG issues. Even with a really good flush you risk mixing green with red which is not good.

Welcome to the 80s forum

 

[kwikrnu]

That is nice I have read most of the faq. I followed the first post and I have read that thread in the past. I read itr again thinking I may have missed something, but I do not believe there was the specific mention of the actual toyota recommended fluids and their capacities as called for by the actual fsm or the owners manual.

I have also read that you're not supposed to mix red and green coolant and a bunch of other opinions.

I knew that I shouldn't have asked this question, but why not just add one simple link to the faq which states fluids and capacities without discussion and opinion? If that is too hard, then as soon as I get a fsm I'll just have start a new post filled with searchable key words in the title and body so others may find it.

 

[Romer]

The other guys went off the recommended oil and thats why they pointed at the FAQ. Most of us don't use the oild or Gear oil recommended by Toyota, but we do use the Toyota Filters. Here is the info out of the FSM.

Engine oil
Dry fill 8.0 liters (8.5 US qts, 7.0 Imp. qts)
Drain and refill w/ Oil filter change 7.4 liters (7.8 US qts, 6.5 Imp. qts)
w/o Oil filter change 6.9 liters (7.3 US qts, 6.1 Imp qts)
API grade SH, Energy-Conserving II multigrade
engine oil or ILSAC multigrade engine oil and
recommended viscosity oil, with SAE 5W-30 being
preferred engine oil


Differential oil
Front w/o Dfferential lock 2.80 liters (2.9 US qts, 2.5 lmp. qts)
w/ Dfferential lock 2.65 liters (2.8 US qts, 2.3 lmp. qts)
Rear 3.25 liters (3.4 US qts, 2.9 lmp. qts)
Hypoid gear oil API GL-5
Above -18°C (0°F) SAE 90
Below -18°C (0°F) SAE 80W-90 or 80W

Transmission
11.0 liters (11.6 US qts, 9.7 lmp. qts)
1.9 liters (2.0 US qts, 1.7 lmp. qts)
ATF DEXRON®II

Engine coolant:
w/ Front heater 12.5 liters (13.2 US qts, 11.1 lmp. qts)
w/ Front heater and rear heaters 13.4 liters (14.2 US qts, 11.8 lmp. qts)
Ethylene-glycol base

 

[Romer]

I have added it to the FAQ in both places, the Maintenance section and the Oil FAQ.

Not sure what you are trying to show with your graphic. If it's you searched and couldn't find it, just say so. I add stuff all the time per request and no its not to hard Remember, I am an unpaid volunteer and your words could easily be interpreted as we are not meeting your standards. I doubt you meant it that way, but that's the way it came across the first and second time I read it.

 

[Ting]

For Transmission - If you do drain and refill - it takes about 4 qts...

 

[eurorom]

I have added it to the FAQ in both places, the Maintenance section and the Oil FAQ.

Not sure what you are trying to show with your graphic. If it's you searched and couldn't find it, just say so. I add stuff all the time per request and no its not to hard Remember, I am an unpaid volunteer and your words could easily be interpreted as we are not meeting your standards. I doubt you meant it that way, but that's the way it came across the first and second time I read it.

Easy Romer, I think he volunteers to do some easier to find links according to his standards!

...and he thinks it would be easier for everybody to find!

We All apreciate what you do and understand why you do it,


for the love of the Landcruiser!


...and for that we all are thankful!

 

[corsair23]

I think I need to step away from trying to be helpful for awhile...The last couple of times I thought I was being helpful, the original poster seems to have felt differently, and dare I say came across as ungrateul for the help.

And, when I read something like this:

I just bought an 80 and I don't have a manual.
I tried to search but I couldn't really find anything.

What are the recommended fluids for a fzj80 ?

I read that to mean the poster is new to the 80 series, was unsuccessful in a search, probably didn't see/read the FAQs, and wants to know what the "recommended" fluids are.

Sure, I could have actually looked in manual or FSM and said Toyota recommends X type of oil etc., but that manual and FSM were written 10+ years ago and I guess IMO what Toyota recommended back then was based on what was available THEN. Personally, I prefer to rely on the expertise developed over time and by those on MUD that have real world experience that is applicable now.

 

[OGBeno]

Engine: Oil 8 quarts
Tranny: red stuff (ATF) 4 or so quarts
Radiator: Toyota Red stuff
Brakes: brake fluid DOT4
Diffs/xfer: gear oil 80w90
Wiper fluid: blue lavatory stuff
A/C: r-12 or r-134
Power steering: ATF (same red stuff as in your tranny)
Cooler: your choice of whatever beverage quenches your thirst or gets you drunk.

That's about it. You spend a lot on the above or you can spend a little on the above.

Your choice.
-o-

 

[kwikrnu]

I have added it to the FAQ in both places, the Maintenance section and the Oil FAQ.

Not sure what you are trying to show with your graphic. If it's you searched and couldn't find it, just say so. I add stuff all the time per request and no its not to hard Remember, I am an unpaid volunteer and your words could easily be interpreted as we are not meeting your standards. I doubt you meant it that way, but that's the way it came across the first and second time I read it.

I realize this is a free site and volunteers do the work.
My first post clearly states I did a search. Then the next two posts told me to do a search. I had already searched and to prove that I had I took a picture of todays history of ih8mud searches.

Thank you for the addition to the faq and for the help.

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Engine oil
Dry fill 8.0 liters (8.5 US quarts)
Drain and refill w/ Oil filter change 7.4 liters (7.8 US quarts)
w/o Oil filter change 6.9 liters (7.3 US quarts)
API grade SH, Energy-Conserving II multi-grade
engine oil or ILSAC multi-grade engine oil and
recommended viscosity oil, with SAE 5W-30 being
preferred engine oil

Differential oil
Front w/o Differential lock 2.80 liters (2.9 US quarts)
w/ Differential lock 2.65 liters (2.8 US quarts)
Rear 3.25 liters (3.4 US quarts)
Hypoid gear oil API GL-5
Above -18°C (0°F) SAE 90
Below -18°C (0°F) SAE 80W-90 or 80W

Transmission
11.0 liters (11.6 US quarts)
1.9 liters (2.0 US quarts)
ATF DEXRON®II

Engine coolant
w/ Front heater 12.5 liters (13.2 US quarts)
w/ Front heater and rear heaters 13.4 liters (14.2 US quarts)
Ethylene-glycol base

Transfer Case
Viscosity: 75W-90
Capacity: 1.8 quarts
Oil Type: API GL-4 or GL-5
Torque: 27 ft lb

 

[Romer]

I realize this is a free site and volunteers do the work.
My first post clearly states I did a search. Then the next two posts told me to do a search. I had already searched and to prove that I had I took a picture of todays history of ih8mud searches.

Thank you for the addition to the faq and for the help.

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No problem. It's easy to get heated on the internet and I have posted in a few other threads that folks are being told to search to quickly and to back off from that. In this case, the first two posters provided you a link rather than saying search to the types of oil that our forum members recommend which did answer your original question of "recommended fluids". You didn't ask quantities or Toyota recommendations.

Maybe it would be better next time to say why the links provided did not answer your question and then the forum members will then try and answer your remaining questions. Going back and reading your first post again, Ting and Corsair23 answered your original question, but not exactly what you meant to ask.

I think we had some mis-communication here which is easy to do on the internet. Corsair23, please continue to post your help. I for one appreciate it

 

[cary]

Fixed it for you with the updated specifications (oil standards change over time):

Engine oil
Dry fill 8.0 liters (8.5 US quarts)
Drain and refill w/ Oil filter change 7.4 liters (7.8 US quarts)
w/o Oil filter change 6.9 liters (7.3 US quarts)
API grade SL or SM, Energy-Conserving II multi-grade
engine oil or ILSAC multi-grade engine oil and
recommended viscosity oil, with SAE 5W-30 being
preferred engine oil (mud preferred grade 0w-40, 5w-40, 15w-40, see faq)

Differential oil
Front w/o Differential lock 2.80 liters (2.9 US quarts)
w/ Differential lock 2.65 liters (2.8 US quarts)
Rear 3.25 liters (3.4 US quarts)
Hypoid gear oil API GL-5
SAE 80W-90 or 75W-90

Transmission
11.0 liters (11.6 US quarts)
1.9 liters (2.0 US quarts)
ATF DEXRON®VI

Engine coolant
w/ Front heater 12.5 liters (13.2 US quarts)
w/ Front heater and rear heaters 13.4 liters (14.2 US quarts)
Ethylene-glycol base- Toyota Red

Transfer Case
Viscosity: 75W-90 or 80w-90
Capacity: 1.8 quarts
Oil Type: API GL-4 or GL-5
Torque: 27 ft lb

 

[kwikrnu]

Fixed it for you with the updated specifications (oil standards change over time):


Transmission
11.0 liters (11.6 US quarts)
1.9 liters (2.0 US quarts)
ATF DEXRON®VI

I hate to get into a discusion of dextron VI and the backawards capatibility with non-GM transmissions, but from what I have read it is not compatible with our trucks...
Here is a link and I'm sure there are others.

 

[cary]

I hate to get into a discusion of dextron VI and the backawards capatibility with non-GM transmissions, but from what I have read it is not compatible with our trucks...
Here is a link and I'm sure there are others.

Dexron VI is backwards compatible with all prior Dexron. You might also want to check out the FAQ, where I specifically covered this issue, it can be found here (link to actual thread):

https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=161325


There is no debate about it. General Motors will no longer license the name Dexron III, Dexron VI is the current standard and supercedes all prior standards. The Dexron VI spec is superior in every way to the III spec, including but not limited to, varnish resistance, low temp pumping, and oxidation resistance.

 

[kwikrnu]

Dexron VI is backwards compatible with all prior Dexron. You might also want to check out the FAQ, where I specifically covered this issue, it can be found here (link to actual thread):

https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=161325


There is no debate about it. General Motors will no longer license the name Dexron III, Dexron VI is the current standard and supercedes all prior standards. The Dexron VI spec is superior in every way to the III spec, including but not limited to, varnish resistance, low temp pumping, and oxidation resistance.

I called toyota customer service just now and they transfered me to someone who spoke directly to some tech. They said a definite no to dextron VI. He said Dextron III. The number I called was 1-800-331-4331 then hit 5.

 

[cary]

I called toyota customer service just now and they transfered me to someone who spoke directly to some tech. They said a definite no to dextron VI. He said Dextron III. The number I called was 1-800-331-4331 then hit 5.

Not to rain on your parade, but if you call BMW NA they will tell you to run Mobil 1 5w-30 oil in your engine, when it meets none of BMW's required specs (the correct grade is 0w-40 which bears BMW LL-01 approval), but BMW NA just hasn't updated their information in the past 10 years.

I'm am guessing the rep is confused as to Dexron VI and Toyota T-IV, which are in-compatable. The party that sets the standard and Licenses the Dexron name (General Motors) states unequivocally that Dexron VI is fully backwards compatible with all prior Dexron standards, and has specifically stopped licensing oil under the former standard. This is no different than when the API comes out with a newer standard (now SM), all older standards are included in the newer standard.

Ironically, you are arguing about the use of Dexron III, while the manual states to use Dexron II. Why is III fine but not VI?

Toyota has used 3 different automatic transmission fluids in the past 15 years, Dexron, T-IV, and now WS (World Standard). None should be used in place of the other, but the most current version of Dexron can be used in place of any earlier version.

 

[kwikrnu]

Not to rain on your parade, but if you call BMW NA they will tell you to run Mobil 1 5w-30 oil in your engine, when it meets none of BMW's required specs (the correct grade is 0w-40 which bears BMW LL-01 approval), but BMW NA just hasn't updated their information in the past 10 years.

I'm am guessing the rep is confused as to Dexron VI and Toyota T-IV, which are in-compatable. The party that sets the standard and Licenses the Dexron name (General Motors) states unequivocally that Dexron VI is fully backwards compatible with all prior Dexron standards, and has specifically stopped licensing oil under the former standard. This is no different than when the API comes out with a newer standard (now SM), all older standards are included in the newer standard.

Ironically, you are arguing about the use of Dexron III, while the manual states to use Dexron II. Why is III fine but not VI?

Toyota has used 3 different automatic transmission fluids in the past 15 years, Dexron, T-IV, and now WS (World Standard). None should be used in place of the other, but the most current version of Dexron can be used in place of any earlier version.

I can understand the toyota techs don't know anything, but What about Citgo's statement that VI is not to be used in non gm trannies which call for II or III? You would think that a major oil company and onw which is licensed by gm to sell a product would know what the product works for.

When GM made the new atf did they test it in older and new model GM transmissions? Did they test the atf in transmissions of other manufacturers?

Toyota of NA states III is what should be used and VI isn't which is something I believe more than the internet.

 

[phatairman]

Toyota of NA states III is what should be used and VI isn't which is something I believe more than the internet.

If you have already made you mind up about oil to use and no one on the internet could tell you differently, why debate it?

 

[cary]

I can understand the toyota techs don't know anything, but What about Citgo's statement that VI is not to be used in non gm trannies which call for II or III? You would think that a major oil company and onw which is licensed by gm to sell a product would know what the product works for.

When GM made the new atf did they test it in older and new model GM transmissions? Did they test the atf in transmissions of other manufacturers?

Toyota of NA states III is what should be used and VI isn't which is something I believe more than the internet.

I don't know why Citgo recommends their other product, but I can guess at several reasons.

1) It allows them to sell cheaper produced (Dexron III doesn't need as high of quality basestocks) at the same price as the more expensive to produce Dexron VI.

2) They get to use up their existing supplies of Dexron III by not immediately having people buy up the latest spec oil and leave the old stuff on the floor.

3) For people like you that can't grasp that GM, who develops and licenses the specification, might be telling the truth when they say Dexron VI is fully backwards compatible.


Can you answer the question I have posed to you but yet you have avoided. The manual calls for Dexron II, you are entirely comfortable running Dexron III, but not Dexron VI, why is that?



I know the answer, because you can't find Dexron II, just like you won't be able to find Dexron III in a couple of years.