Hell Creek finished - LTB's installed with pics

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diggity

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Hi All,

Well after several questions in my Hell Creek and LTB thread, here it is finished with the LTB's installed. Finished it up, took it out on some local power line trails to flex the springs a bit. Leaving in a few to hit them again this evening. It is NOT good on the road, but bad a$$ on the trail so far.

Thanks again for all the answers and comments/suggestions.

Here are few pics.

BTW - specs:

- Stock shackles
- Hell Creek 4" lift
- 34x10.50x15 SS LTB's
- Stock everything else.
- no power steering yet.
- Very squirley on the road
- HardTop scrubs top of garage

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Anyway, still need to find some extended brake lines (not interested in the stainless braided, just black/stock type). Still trying to locate them.

Not sure if I will put 1.5 + shackles on the rear to level up a bit...tires do not rub so far with stock shackles.

Lots of rigs on here were inspiration, hope you guys enjoy.

Brad
 
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Looks good bro. I just put a HC suspension on mine as well. Have you noticed any vibration issues when driving on the road?? Like those tires....
 
Melloj123 - no noticeable vibration when on the road, also no shims installed yet (don't think I need them).

I do feel and hear what I think is the drive shaft when coasting from anywhere between 30-50Mph to a stop. But I will be replacing ubolts first (they probably need it anyway) before shimming.

Brad
 
Hi All:

There is a rubber flex brake line replacement available that is five (5) inches longer than the stock units.

I think the Raybestoes part number is BH38009, NAPA uses it too.

Good luck!

Alan
 
Hey looks great!!!

You said 34x15.50x15 LTB's ... is that a typo? They look like 10.50's... just wondering cause I like that size tire and it would be nice with manual steering (less width).

Also, was it not squirely on road before the lift? If not, its probably your relay rod which is at that angle which si causing it. I never seen guys with drop pitman arms on this site, but, it would probably help to alleviate the angle.
 
Looks good! Tom up at Hell Creek makes a great product for the price. Good choice!

Later,
 
GreenBomber said:
Hey looks great!!!

You said 34x15.50x15 LTB's ... is that a typo? They look like 10.50's... just wondering cause I like that size tire and it would be nice with manual steering (less width).

Also, was it not squirely on road before the lift? If not, its probably your relay rod which is at that angle which si causing it. I never seen guys with drop pitman arms on this site, but, it would probably help to alleviate the angle.
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Hi - yes it was a typo, thanks. No it was not squirley on the road in stock condition. It actually was pretty tight with very little play or sway :D I will look into the relay rod. thanks.

SD_rdcruzer said:
Looks good. Let us know how it breaks in and if the ride smooth out on the road.
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Will do, right now the front shackle angle is not very good...and the rear is a bit odd. When I first put the lift on, the rear was pretty level [not much lean], now with the larger tires on and a little bit of breaking in on the trails, the left side rear is 1.25 inches LOWER than the right...and it looks like it is due to the shackle angle...the driver side rear is almost 45 degree and the passenger is closer to 30 ish. I will give it more time and I am hoping this is due to the weight of the spare tire being on the driver side..thoughts on this?

Bodean said:
Looks good! Tom up at Hell Creek makes a great product for the price. Good choice!

Later,
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Thanks, yep so far so good.

Brad
 
Glad to see you getting that 40 dirty! Looking good. I gave my 34 LTB's a bath this weekend. ;)

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Looks like the tall skinnies are fitting up into wheel wells pretty nicely. It will be interesting to see how much closer they are after the lift settles in a few thousand miles.

Squirrelly steering is probably due to the change in caster angle after adding the lift springs, one of the reasons you need shims. It will also help save the U-joints of your drive shafts by correcting the pinion angles.
 
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GreenBomber said:
Hey looks great!!!

You said 34x15.50x15 LTB's ... is that a typo? They look like 10.50's... just wondering cause I like that size tire and it would be nice with manual steering (less width).

Also, was it not squirely on road before the lift? If not, its probably your relay rod which is at that angle which si causing it. I never seen guys with drop pitman arms on this site, but, it would probably help to alleviate the angle.
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You mean like this? Works good. Al
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Thanks for the comments all, I am loving the 40.

MDH33 - Nice, I am curious as well. Also, I will be using an angle finder this weekend to check my caster angle.

I will be replacing all u-joints and tie-rod ends in the very near future as well...and since I am hitting the steering linkage on sharp left, I will now start looking for power steering setup. What do you have on yours.

Thanks,

Brad
 
ALZ Toys How far is your international box shimmed out?? I can see a few plates but what do they add up to?
Thanks Also what are the chances of rubbing the box with larger tires? Thanks

Ohh I am not nit-picking i am wanting to copy
 
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Will do, right now the front shackle angle is not very good...and the rear is a bit odd. When I first put the lift on, the rear was pretty level [not much lean], now with the larger tires on and a little bit of breaking in on the trails, the left side rear is 1.25 inches LOWER than the right...and it looks like it is due to the shackle angle...the driver side rear is almost 45 degree and the passenger is closer to 30 ish. I will give it more time and I am hoping this is due to the weight of the spare tire being on the driver side..thoughts on this?

what are you going to about the cruise "lean"?
It seems as if 1.25" is alot, have you been able to figure out what is causing this?
 
303garage - did not have the lean prior to lift/tires. It is definitely the springs or shackles...shackle angle is different, I will try to take a pick and post up. I thought I would give it a bit more time before worrying about it.

Thoughts?

Brad
 
very nice cruiser.

very nice SE ultra as well.... PM sent
 
Sweet looking rig!

1.25 is a lot - throw up some pics of the front and rear shackles and spring perch mounts since it appears to be a shackle reversal truck
 
diggity said:
303garage - did not have the lean prior to lift/tires. It is definitely the springs or shackles...shackle angle is different, I will try to take a pick and post up. I thought I would give it a bit more time before worrying about it.

Thoughts?

Brad
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Diggity,

There's no reason for uneven sag like it sounds you're having. Make sure all else is as it should be. Did a center pin get out of the hole on the plates? U-bolts loose? Shackle bolts overtightened (limiting spring range of motion)?

If all is otherwise OK, call Tom. Your springs have a lifetime warranty!

Keep us posted
 
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