With a "new" 2016 model, will there be a glut of older 200s soon?

[garymyman]

I've been looking for the perfect ~$30k 200 for about a month (found out we're expecting triplets, my beloved Cayenne is now inadequate) and the supply is lacking, to say the least. I'm hoping that many will be upgrading their 2008/09's to '16s in the next few months. Is that a phenomenon that happens with LC's?

If not are there other places to search besides the classifieds here, cars.com, autotrader and eBay?

 

[Willy beamin]

Searchtempest Craig's list.
I've seen a few on there. Good luck with three little ones all at once. Learn to play zone is my best advice.

 

[Markuson]

Except that the 2016 isn't what I would call a "new model."

It's an updated 200...but beyond the extra gears in a new transmission...all other changes are non-mechanical.

When the 300 eventually comes out? I'd expect a bigger impact. But looking at my recently bought 2008 200 series...I'm not feeling left behind by the 2016 at all. It's basically the same vehicle.

 

[Angelo1]

I have yet to see a 16' unless it passed me and I thought it was a 15',14',13'. The head lights will be the dead giveaway but very few will notice anything at all.

 

[bronc076]

I search auto trader almost daily. It seems the LX570 has a better used market, lower mileage cars for better prices. I know it's silly, but I want a land cruiser not an LX.

Searching sure is fun, but I'm going to need to scratch this ich pretty soon, everyone around me is tired of hearing about Land Cruiser.

 

[Markuson]

I search auto trader almost daily. It seems the LX570 has a better used market, lower mileage cars for better prices. I know it's silly, but I want a land cruiser not an LX.

Searching sure is fun, but I'm going to need to scratch this ich pretty soon, everyone around me is tired of hearing about Land Cruiser.

Not silly at all if you want to add a lift, etc. The LX has adjustable height suspension, and you end up wanting to remove it if you want to do much with the suspension... LC all the way...

 

[bronc076]

I'm glad you said that, I forgot all about the air suspension.

 

[Katkon]

I've been looking for the perfect ~$30k 200 for about a month (found out we're expecting triplets, my beloved Cayenne is now inadequate) and the supply is lacking, to say the least. I'm hoping that many will be upgrading their 2008/09's to '16s in the next few months. Is that a phenomenon that happens with LC's?

If not are there other places to search besides the classifieds here, cars.com, autotrader and eBay?

I don't know if the Land Cruiser is the sort of vehicle that people "upgrade" into when the new model is out. I just bought a '16, but didn't come from an older LC. That said, if they come out with a new LC in a couple of years time, I don't think I'll upgrade - older LCs are cool! I'm buying because it's a truck that's supposedly built to last well beyond the next gee-wiz electronic upgrades. And, frankly, all the electronic junk will fail WAY before the mechanicals - which further detracts from newer models. I bought the '16 over a new '15 because I looked the aesthetics a bit more (and the LED lights), but I actually preferred the lesser gadgetry of the '15. It was a close call.

I think you're looking in the right spots, though - though I might add local dealer inventories. And: does Toyota.com left you browse used car inventories at dealers? Worth a shot...

 

[MScruiser]

I do not think you are correct. I do not remember a bunch of 2008-2011 flooding the market when the 2013s hit the lots. I would assume the facelift with the 2016 would not be any different.

 

[AL LC2013]

I've been looking for the perfect ~$30k 200 for about a month (found out we're expecting triplets, my beloved Cayenne is now inadequate) and the supply is lacking, to say the least. I'm hoping that many will be upgrading their 2008/09's to '16s in the next few months. Is that a phenomenon that happens with LC's?

If not are there other places to search besides the classifieds here, cars.com, autotrader and eBay?

I did read that the LC was one of the better options for three car seats across.

Try car gurus for a search.

 

[MSU LC200]

I think you should wait until I find mine before you start your search. My new baby is already here, the 3 series Bimmer isn't cutting it, and mama wants a Land Cruiser now!

 

[M1911]

There will not be any kind of glut of used 200s on the market. For there to be a glut of used cars available on the market, the manufacturer needs to have sold a lot in the first place.

But Toyota sells very few Landcruisers in the US. Landcruiser sales in the US have typically been around 3000 per year.

I think there are two main types of Landcruiser buyers: 1) Lease holders who lease a Landcruiser for 2-3 years, turn it in, and get a new car (whether a new LC or something else), and 2) Landcruiser enthusiasts who buy one and keep it forever.

Also, Landcruisers are in big demand overseas. So older used Landcruisers are often shipped overseas.

 

[MSU LC200]

I'm sure you saw this one. Seems like a decent deal. And it's in your neck of the woods.

 

[linuxgod]

I'm in a similar boat to you (3 kids, 2 whom are still in boosters). I was looking for a 2011 with <60k miles for around $40k-42k. I ended up buying a CPO 2013 with 48k for $49,000. The price on the LXs converges with the LC after 5-6 years. I considered the LX because the air suspension would be better for towing, but in the end decided I preferred the Toyota badge. Also the 2013's have all the same bells and whistles as the 2011 LX.

As far as price goes, for $30k you'll be looking at a 2008-2009 with at least 90k on it, possibly more. I spent a lot of time looking nationally on cars.com, cruising ebay, etc. Since the LC is low production, what I found was that you'll need to make one of the following trade-offs:

- You'll have to travel somewhere to make the purchase or will need to have the vehicle shipped, or
- You'll need to adjust your criteria (cost, mileage, accident history, etc), or
- You'll need to have a very long purchase timeframe (6+ months) to wait for your mileage/condition/price to turn up locally

In the end I decided a 2013 CPO was the way to go as would let me take a little longer loan since we only drive 9-10k miles per year. I had mine shipped by AutoNation from Houston to Chicago (it's actually slated for delivery on Monday). Normally buying sight unseen would concern me, but it was 2 years old, had a clear carfax, and I was able to get all the service records from one dealership. With the Toyota CPO warranty I feel covered for any issues.

One thing I do suggest is that you go buy three car seats and try to put them in the vehicle now. We managed two car seats and a booster and then two boosters and a car seat in our Acura MDX just fine, but three across wouldn't have fit. I know the LC has a bit more room in the 3rd row, but 3 seats all facing the same direction might be tough. If they don't fit, you can try to find a slimmer car seat, but I would caution in your case about relying on the 3rd row since in my experience with my Acura the 3rd row is a PITA to get kids in and out of if they can't buckle themselves (plus once you fasten the car seat, you can only access the 3rd row via the trunk).

 

[mark71]

I can attest that 3 infant car seats is VERY tight. My wife has a 'thing' for car seats, so we had several spares laying around when we finally found a combination that worked.

Back in the day when this was a common occurrence, I drove a Sequoia and was VERY happy for the extra space (actually sold my first LC200 to buy one). Having a Platinum with the center console removed made strapping the kids in the third row very easy. To this day, that rig was still the best road trip vehicle our family has ever had. Worth considering.

 

[garymyman]

2013 Toyota Land Cruiser: Car Seat Check

This, and a few other sites, have been my guide on the subject (that I never thought I'd be researching). Even the Cayenne will fit 3, technically, but just barely. I looked into the Sequoia briefly but the higher trim levels seem to come with 2nd row captains chairs and I'd rather have all the kids on the second row until they're in boosters. The GX460 is in consideration, but I've got LC200 fever.

- You'll need to have a very long purchase timeframe (6+ months) to wait for your mileage/condition/price to turn up locally

That's what I'm learning. And I'm ready for that. I went to the largest dealer in the area where a salesman said he'd seen 4 Land Cruisers traded in since he started in 2013. Also learning how difficult it is to sell a Porsche Cayenne private-party in a small economy with lots of oil & gas jobs...

 

[M1911]

2013 Toyota Land Cruiser: Car Seat Check

This, and a few other sites, have been my guide on the subject (that I never thought I'd be researching). Even the Cayenne will fit 3, technically, but just barely. I looked into the Sequoia briefly but the higher trim levels seem to come with 2nd row captains chairs and I'd rather have all the kids on the second row until they're in boosters. The GX460 is in consideration, but I've got LC200 fever.

The GX460 is a lot narrower than a Landcruiser. I seriously doubt you will get 3 child seats in the second row of a GX460. Also, the GX460 loses a lot of cargo capacity due to the third row -- only 60 cu ft behind the first row, compared to 80 cu ft for a 4Runner, and 80 cu ft for a Landcruiser.

I test drove a GX460 three times. But I found the drivers seat to be uncomfortable, visibility wasn't great, the price is high, and I hate the side-hinged rear door. You really need to get the Premium package on the GX, and with that you are priced near a 2-year-old Landcruiser. So I got a 2-year-old Landcruiser instead.