x2 for the gas prices and owners hopping to the next "it" thing. And all those posts about poor visibility can't be wrong. Once the cool and new factor is fading away, here lies the essence of the car.
Why so many '07 FJC's for sale? Common Probs?
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For all it's faults, Toyota has created a purpose-built, capable off-road vehicle that is comfortable for freeway expeditions, off-road excursions and expeditions, daily driving, mall cruising and is safe to boot. While the "real" (I know I'll get flamed for that) Landcruisers are bulletproof, they will kill you on long hauls and freeway runs, not to mention the 10-13 MPG.
Once the novelty of it is gone, the FJC has a truck engine built on a truck chassis with a utilitarian interior. To appreciate it, you've gotta treat it like truck, not a commuter sedan. Most people that purchased one initially have never gotten anything but road grime on 'em. Pity. They should sell them. They need more indulgent owners, anyway.
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Once the novelty of it is gone, the FJC has a truck engine built on a truck chassis with a utilitarian interior. To appreciate it, you've gotta treat it like truck, not a commuter sedan. Most people that purchased one initially have never gotten anything but road grime on 'em. Pity. They should sell them. They need more indulgent owners, anyway.
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Cruiserdrew
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Later Land Cruisers (80s, 100s) will not kill you on long hauls, but the poor economy IS a problem. What do built FJCs get on highway runs?
I'm looking forward to the 2nd generation FJC-hopefully they ditch the goofy front bumper and odd mirrors. I like the utilitarian ideal as well.
Cruiserdrew. Here we go with the "if you dont like it your not a real off-roader" baloney. I was probably off-roading before you were born. Most people cannot afford a dedicated recreational rig and have to use their FJ like a "commuter sedan". So what if you should treat it like a truck does that mean flimsy plastic bumpers should be acceptable or any other of the flaws I cited?
Cruiserdrew
On the way there
You obviously have mis-interpreted my post. I like the FJCs, review my past posts. I am largely agreeing with you in my post. I do think the front bumper is a plastic POS, and so do the majority of owners who offroad them. Calm down.
edit-Actually, I am sort of agreeing with adso. If you were Offroading in the 1950s, then I guess you were offroading before I was born. That's cool. I guess I don't understand your post?I like my land Cruisers for sure, I don't like their lousy fuel economy. I think FJCs have been good for the Toyota offroad community-they are bringing people in who would never before have considered going to remote places in a vehicle.
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Sorry, a bit touchy in my old age and my first off-road jaunt wasn't until '65. What's infuriating about the FJ is that all the annoying design flaws should have been obvious to Toyota. Even the A pillars could have been half the width . I like my FJ but the rear not folding flat and no inside handle really pisses me off every time we go camping.
This and a few other similar posts make the most sense to me.
I know there's a lot of talk about the diff and inner fender cracks on the forums. But I conduct reliability research, and the 66 2007 FJ owners who have been participating have reported very few repairs.
So there are two possibilities:
1. The problems aren't as common as the forums suggest.
2. Some of these owners have problems, but haven't had them repaired yet--only completed repairs are included in the analysis.
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