Where can I get a new booster boot?

[lostmarbles]

There must be others here with the same problem I have. My rubber boot (that forces the air sucked into my booster to pass through a "dust/grit filtering-element") is perished.

Has anyone had any luck sourcing one of these?

My booster is a 7 1/2 inch single-type AISIN with part number 44610-60030.

While I can still buy a kit for it (last time I checked), I'd need to be a lot wealthier than I am to afford to do so. (04443-60030 $609 + tax ...last time I checked).

As far as I can see this booster 44610-60190 (photographed here) is identical to mine. (I just bought it as a spare and the EPC says it fits August 1980 onwards BJ40, BJ42 etc.)

As expected, the boot on this one is perished/torn also:



Do any common/modern boosters use this same sort of boot?

Advice/ideas please.........

thanks in advance

 

[boogie74]

Is that clutch or brake. My clutch booster has the same looking boot on it. I reckon most toyota boosters, brake or clutch would have that same boot. When I went looking for a clutch booster some of the wreckers had massive bins full of boosters. Have you tried the wreckers in your area? I wouldn't matter if the booster was different just if the boot was the same. Secondhand boosters were about $60 to $100 bucks. Bit cheaper than $600. Ouch!!! I dont know why toyota charges so much for these boosters when they are a week point of the design. Alot of people on here are looking for boosters and toyota either doesn't make anymore them or charges like a wounded bull for em.

Good luck in finding one.

Just a thought. Sikaflex maybe able to be used to fix it. Might work. That stuff sticks like sh!t to a blanket and is very flexible. Might have to build up a few layers on it. Could be a quick fix and give you time to sort out a more permenent and cheaper solution.

Cheers.

 

[boogie74]

Just another thought.

Try a brake and clutch specialist. You would reckon they would have something lying around their workshop that would do the job. I got quoted $150 for a clutch booster rebuild at a local clutch shop.

Cheers

 

[lostmarbles]

Thanks Boogie

I did try the biggest brake/clutch specialist in Wellington for a replacement boot. - They reckoned they had nothing and that they couldn't find/source one elsewhere either.

As far as repairing the boots, I had good success with Loctite 480 glue on my other one. (The one fitted to the cruiser.) It's done another 5000kms or so since that repair but I can't see it lasting another 10,000kms. .........Once the rubber is weak and perished I think it will just keep tearing.

I'll take your advice and visit wreckers next time I'm on the move around the country. (At least the new spare will make it easier for me to show people what I'm after now.)



PS. It's a brake booster

 

[boogie74]

Ok mate,

Good luck. Some parts are easy to find and other are nearly impossible. Mine was built in 87 and some things are impossible to find.

Have a good one.

 

[amaurer]

The part you mention, 04443-60030, is the booster rebuild kit, so you get a lot more than just the boot in question - it looks like its $175 USD nowadays. My opinion is thats a reasonable price for essentially a new OEM booster.

If it were me, I'd just run what you have, maybe with some tape on it.

If it were me, but in another life where I have more money, I'd fork out the money for the rebuild kit.

If it were me, and still cheap, but perhaps not so lazy, I'd buy a steering stabilizer shock boot ($5) and attach it with cable ties.

 

[lostmarbles]

The part you mention, 04443-60030, is the booster rebuild kit, so you get a lot more than just the boot in question - it looks like its $175 USD nowadays. My opinion is thats a reasonable price for essentially a new OEM booster.

If it were me, I'd just run what you have, maybe with some tape on it.

If it were me, but in another life where I have more money, I'd fork out the money for the rebuild kit.

If it were me, and still cheap, but perhaps not so lazy, I'd buy a steering stabilizer shock boot ($5) and attach it with cable ties.

Thanks Drew.

That price is about half what my local Toyota dealer quoted me (we get ripped off big-time here) so I might ring around more when I get some cash available. (That would give my booster another 30 year's service-life and keep my vehicle looking standard at the same time.)............ And owning a forty is of course an obsession where we shouldn't try and justify expenditure.

And I like your idea of adapting a steering stabiliser boot

 

[Roberto]

that price doesnt seem bad at all, the kit from SOR for my 83 is over $300????

R

 

[lshobie]

I might have one - if interested PM me.

Louis

 

[Joe Egolf]

what about those cvjoint boot repair kits?? would / could they help ?

 

[lostmarbles]

I might have one - if interested PM me.

Louis

PM sent

what about those cvjoint boot repair kits?? would / could they help ?

I'm not familiar with those Joe. I'm guessing they contain some sort of flexible adhesive/filler.

That's odd because I thought the presence of grease would make it ultra-hard to repair a torn CV joint boot.

Perhaps you can enlighten me on how they work (or pretend to work )

 

[amaurer]

I'm not familiar with those Joe. I'm guessing they contain some sort of flexible adhesive/filler.

That's odd because I thought the presence of grease would make it ultra-hard to repair a torn CV joint boot.

Perhaps you can enlighten me on how they work (or pretend to work )

I've never seen a repair kit for the boots, except for the ones that contain a "split boot". I don't think that will be helpful.

 

[pbgbottle]

hey Tom didn't you just recently rebuild that ??
, i might have one of those also i have two boosters on the shelf and one in another parts rig .

 

[lostmarbles]

what about those cvjoint boot repair kits?? would / could they help ?

I've never seen a repair kit for the boots, except for the ones that contain a "split boot". I don't think that will be helpful.

I see now (FROM Email messaging) that Joe means the replacement CV boots themselves.

(I'd only heard of those split-boots too.)

While I think CV boots would be far too large (even from a small car), the boots on the ends of a steering rack may be able to be adapted (and likewise for the boots on steering dampers and shocks). So thanks for the input guys.

hey Tom didn't you just recently rebuild that ??
, i might have one of those also i have two boosters on the shelf and one in another parts rig .

Yes..... Well sort of. .......I took it apart, relubed everything and put it back together Jake.

I couldn't replace anything because the kit was too expensive and I couldn't find any alternative source of parts than Toyota. (Apparently none of the seals etc are shared with more common boosters so I couldn't use generic parts either.)

But, apart from that boot, the rest of the booster looked like it could last another 30 years.

I'll see how I get on with a boot from Louis but I may contact you later about the possibility of getting one from you.

 

[Big Blue 84BJ60]

my bj/exfj60's brake booster went so i went to the wreckers and a 92 4runner had the exact same booster but it was 9" instead of 8" I installed it (bolted in perfectly) and the truck now stops a little quicker also it is eaiser to lock up the brakes so always test first

 

[Garry]

Gidday Tom,
Have you tried BnT for a new boot, or Repco for a small steering rack boot that may do the trick. My 2 cents

 

[lostmarbles]

my bj/exfj60's brake booster went so i went to the wreckers and a 92 4runner had the exact same booster but it was 9" instead of 8" I installed it (bolted in perfectly) and the truck now stops a little quicker also it is eaiser to lock up the brakes so always test first

Gidday Tom,
Have you tried BnT for a new boot, or Repco for a small steering rack boot that may do the trick. My 2 cents

Thanks guys.

I've got a boot on the way to me now.

(And I'll study all these ideas to get a second one so that I can also hold a "refurbished booster" as a spare.)

 

[lostmarbles]

Well .... I started this thread over 2 years ago .... and the boot I sourced then (from the other side of the world) ending up being nothing like the one I wanted.

So for all this intervening period (.... like all those other OCD suffers out there ....) I've been tossing and turning at night thinking of possible damage I might be doing to "my beloved".

In other words, I've been replaying in my mind the consequences of running with a torn booster boot that allows dust-laden air (when I'm applying my brakes on dusty roads), to mix with my engine oil and then get discharged into my engine crankcase.

But relief has finally come, initiated by this advert on trademe:



OK.... The booster is certainly different to mine .... but the boot looks to be the same ..... and best of all .... the boot looks to be in superb condition!

So I took the plunge and clicked "buy now".

Once I had it, reading this sticker ...

...told me the booster was part number 44610-60120 which was used on both BJ60 and HJ60 models (with front disk brakes) between Aug 1980 and November 1984.

As you can see, the booster diameter is too large for my BJ40 and the shortened length of the mastercylinder means that item would not be capable of moving enough fluid for my drums-all-round either:


But ....... at least I finally have my boot .... and the reservoir (with cap and level "switch") is a perfect match for mine too ... so it will be good to hold for a spare.

 

[lostmarbles]

Here are some more pics of the parts I was interested in:





And I installed this new stuff yesterday morning (same day the booster arrived on my doorstep and before going to work) using my new trouble-lamp that I got recently from CruiserCorps. (Cheaper to get it from them in the USA than to buy it here from Toyota NZ.)



This trouble lamp is great for this sort of work because you can hang it right up there where you want to shed the light.

I found it a little awkward to get my 14mm socket (and ratchet) onto the pivot bolt to enable removal of the brake pedal .... but at least I managed to change the boot without needing to re-adjust the stop-light switch or pedal free-play. (I simply counted 12 3/4 turns to get the thing-i-me-jig off the rod and back on again.)



PS. And wouldn't ya know it? .... All these sleepless nights for nothing! The Loctite 480 repair of the original boot meant it wasn't even leaking! In fact it has the appearance of never having been split at all. (So I'll keep it for a spare. )

 

[Garry]

Well done man Where would us Kiwis be without good ol TradeMe