What model is this car..please ?

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Doxeng

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Hello Guys,

First of all please feel free to move or delete my posting if is not appropriated. I'm new to the forum and struggling a bit locating the information I need. . I'm sincerely blown away by all of this site's information. I've just purchased a Land cruiser 1985 that is supposed to be a FJ43, only the more research I made, the more I'm convinced is not. I'm not even sure if the car has a 2F engine or if is a 3F ... the property papers say the engine is a 3.8L ... but it mentions the 2F as engine, the 2F is 4.2L .. I can send pictures of the engine compartment ,,, Engine and transmission are running strong, even the A/C is working ... body is a totally different matter as it will need deep restoration ...The car is located in South America, I'm in Florida USA but I have real time access to the car

The first thing I'm trying to fix is the cluster / instrument panel since it appears the odometer is disconnected.. I looked online and did not find anything quite the same as what is in the car per pic below .. without certainty of what car this is it makes it even more difficult to find parts ...

Could you help me determine the model of this truck and if the cluster could be modified or replaced with something close from another model ?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

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Thats an FZJ73. The 73 and 74 series were mid-wheelbase cruisers. This one has the 4.5L 1FZ gas engine like in the later US 80-series.
 
FJ73Texas said:
FZJ73 was not made in 1985.
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True, I was looking more at the badges and grille and forgot the model year. Perhaps an updated, possibly 1FZ swapped FJ73? That said, the gauge cluster is newer too. Could it be a 1995 instead of a 1985?
 
FJ73Texas said:
FZJ73 was not made in 1985.
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The truck pictured is definitely a j73 or j74 (fold down windshield, mid wheel base, removable top) , and definitely NOT a 1985. The grill has the 'new' logo which was launched in October 1990, so that truck is at minimum a 1990 or later (or the grill has been swapped, which is possible with the dent in the hood).
 
post engine and underside pictures.

this thing has been around the block a bit it seems.

odometer disconnected... why?
 
A photo of the data tag on the firewall would be really instructive.
 
that cluster is a bit suspect, no? shouldn't the fz 73/74 gasser have the more detailed cluster, also steering wheel is brown, interior is grey.
 
That could be why the speedometer is disconnected...
Seems like a bit of a mishmash rig.
 
Many thanks for the replies

:)


I will get more pictures, including the data tag in the firewall or door (sidewall ??).

I'm really puzzled about the cluster, for instance the temperature gauge was not working, it came out the sender wire was disconnected

Also, the car was modified for gas / gasoline as fuel, that seems to be common practice down there due to the high cost of gasoline

for now here is more information, it seems that indeed is a FJ73 ?. it doesn't make sense the year, the engine capacity and what they call "linea" ??

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From what I can make of the VIN, it was produced sometime in 1986, and is a regular FJ73 with a 3F engine. It looks to me like someone tried to make it look like a newer model with different badges, grille, and even gauge cluster, but didn't quite finish the job since none of the gauges seem to be hooked up!
 
Doxeng said:
Many thanks for the replies

:)


I will get more pictures, including the data tag in the firewall or door (sidewall ??).

I'm really puzzled about the cluster, for instance the temperature gauge was not working, it came out the sender wire was disconnected

Also, the car was modified for gas / gasoline as fuel, that seems to be common practice down there due to the high cost of gasoline

for now here is more information, it seems that indeed is a FJ73 ?. it doesn't make sense the year, the engine capacity and what they call "linea" ??

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What do you mean that the car was modified for gas/gasoline as fuel?


linea is probably referring to some type of legislated vehicle description; the description of "linea" could be describing what type of vehicle it is ex linea de lujo, "linea"describing the type of chasis or type of usage the veh is going to have - who knows, but this seems like an arbitrary description that has either no relevance or very little relevance to toyota manufacturing... don't pay attention to it. MAYBE just MAYBE they meant to write to FJ73 and made a type-o, or since it's from the mid 80s, there were likely still fj43s being sold at that time in that market and they classified it for whatever reason as an fj43 for tax,import, or ease of documentation (all guesses of mine of course).

As far as we know, this thing is pretty unique a 1985 FRT with a 3f engine. I think we are more used to seeing a FRT in diesel versions.

The data tag and vin will tell the story... I wouldn't be surprised if there are more discrepancies to be found.

is this car in Colombia - just a guess.
 
It is a Colombian FJ73 just like mine. Anything from Colombia probably requires a bit of work and this one obviously needs quite a bit more than mine did which is why I would skip it and run away.
 
AirheadNut said:
True, I was looking more at the badges and grille and forgot the model year. Perhaps an updated, possibly 1FZ swapped FJ73? That said, the gauge cluster is newer too. Could it be a 1995 instead of a 1985?
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Gauge cluster is pre 1990 after 1990 they got very optimistic with a speedo that had 180 km/h on it.

These simple gauge clusters came on all the base models
 
Thanks a lot for the replies and clarifying my questions.

it is indeed a Colombian car. Got it for really cheap and as previously mentioned, the powertrain, suspension, gearboxes and other parts of the car are all in decent condition, it takes gas (CNG) and gasoline. I drove it there for over 500 miles and no a single issue, even the A/C and old Toyota radio are working

Looking at the body and interior is scary as it will require quite of work to get it looking right . my intention is to keep going with the mods they initiated and eventually find a buyer for it, I will post pictures of my progress ...
 
Hello,

The engine looks like a 3F, so it is a 1985 as the registration paper says.

The lack of factory A/C and the rubber weatherstrips give it away as a STD, hence the simpler instrument cluster.

The steering wheel was replaced at some point. I wonder what do those switches in the dash do. None of them is factory.

The front clip seems to be from a 1992-on LX grade FZJ73/4. The truck was re-sprayed at some point; the FRP top should be white. It may be aftermarket, because the FRP TOP side plates in the C pillar are missing.

I suspect it is an FJ73 Soft Top, STD grade. It got an aftermarket top, a different front clip and quite likely a lot more. It is possible it suffered a collision that required changing all the front.

I would run from this truck.






Juan
 
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FJ73 with a later model grill. They used the same body and panels on MWB models from 85 to 04, the only change being coil suspension in 99
 
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