What I wound up with....

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Drove it back f\the 180+ miles today from Knoxville. Great drive!

The 257K 2000 LC has an extensive service history. Big folders with dealer service schedules and receipts. Came with everything as delivered- no missing jacks, owner's manual, etc. Has hail damage- lots of pock marks on the passenger's side- but I'll gladly trade that for the maintenance and the fact that everything works, and works well. Guess I need to dive into going into PDR, it'll be useful on my other machines as well.
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D'ya mind telling what you paid for it? Curious what a high mile Hundy would fetch.
 
The '64 KG is that rarity- a numbers matching Volkswagen! At least according to the archivists in Wolfsburg. Trust me, it's got all of 40 HP and uses it all often. I an 99% certain it has 210K miles. Came here via San Francisco- why its not totally rusted out. Of course it does need new pans...

I gave $8250. Looked at many with less miles, but most had a sketchy or non-existent past. They were also missing things- who wants to get a flat on the way home after buying and find there is no jack, or spare? Mine also will need to have a whole lot of teeny tiny little hail dents on one side to come out as well. The voluminous documentation and up to date maintenance, the the well-kept interior and exterior, it ran like a top, and the fact it was truly a "complete" car with everything that was originally included on delivery indicated this was a well kept and cared for truck.

I'd rather fix dents than timing belts, master cylinders. etc anyway. Anyway, I can't even feel the milage..

Now, off to eBay to see if anyone is discarding a PDR tool set after they found out PDR was not as easy as they thought.
 
Nice. I also test drove one just for fun that had the same mileage and it was tight as new. Amazing vehicles. Post back on your paintless dent removal work. I dented my tailgate with my snowblower and need to know more about PDR.
 
@Sandroad When I decide this was the truck about a week ago, I started to become an internet expert on PDR (the Net is a wonderful thing, isn't it?). One thing for sure, there are no easy and quick solutions, no "pop" and you're done. You can forget about dry ice and/or hair dryers. As Seen On TV dent poppers won't cut it either. To get these dings out, patience will be more than a virtue. But if you're careful and deliberate the average Joe or Jane can get small dents out. You have to work easy and slow, as one has to learn how to "work"/shape the metal. You may be a bit of artisan when you're done and it might help your Zen studies as well.

One thing that will be interesting on my truck will be compound dents- where a second hailstone hit just off center from a previous one.

Whatever method is used, a PDR light pad is a must. It reflects parallel bars off the surface. If the bars bow out, there is more pulling on the dent. If the bars bow in, there is a high spot to be tapped down. All bars parallel is perfect. Also, get proper, purpose-built tools

Glue pulling might be the way to start. Put some glue on the end of a tab, let dry and use a slide hammer or purpose-built puller to pull, and a plastic tapper to get rid of a resulting high spot. It may take a few cycles of this to get it right. This is the way to go if access to back of the panel is hard or impossible. Once you get it down, though, it will only take about 5 minutes to fix a simple ding.

The other way is to get rods, etc. to work the dent from behind. Just like with a hammer and dolly you work from the outside in on the dent, usually something like a tight, dense spiral pattern is used. High spots may still occur but with skill and care are less likely. Possible drawbacks are access to the back the dent can be difficult or impossible. You'll need leverage as well to push and that might be tough to get on a panel. Like glue, once you get some experience it won't take long for a simple ding to come out.

Looking at what Ive got I may start with the glue and see how far I get, then to the rods. If there's a few I can't get- off tom the body shop!

If you get good with this though, the occasional parking lot or door ding or two would be a 15 minute fix.

This isnt a big priority for me- I'll wait until the weather lets me work outside (I also need to get brakes on the KG and do wrap up to the GMC)- but I'll try to post with some photos up after I get going on it.
 
Good luck with PDR, that's not something I'd attempt. Is the hood badly damaged? Seems like it would be hard to fix if there aren't access panels. Get good at it and start up a business, those guys can make a killing.
 
;)Welcome to the club!!
 
My truck had a good amount of hail marks (hundreds of dings) and a small dent repair guy got them all out - like it never even happened. It was very impressive. Took him about two days. Regular body shops wanted to bondo and paint the truck. Glad I went the other route. Highly recommend it.
 
@drillduty Thanks! I just got back tonight from my sister's east of Atlanta. It was a more convoluted trip than usual, as I dropped a friend off in N. Georgia so he could start his Appalachian Trail hike. The ranger said almost everyone starts at the state park we were at, but you'd need 4wd to get to the trailhead. Then she looked over the me and LC and said my truck would be fine to get up there.

Anyway, I've put about 2K on it in the past week- and I'm at 259K and change now milagewise. The 100 is everything it's cracked up to be and a little more. No problems.

I even met Beno! Stopped by and picked up a corner light to replace my busted one at his dealership. (it's about 45 minutes from my sister's house). He was great, and I want to thank him again here. It'll be real handy when I need parts- I'll just visit my sister...
 
It's funny you mentioned you might get into PDR because of your LX. Once I bought my LC I pulled the trigger on a PDR set, and am getting some training on it. I bought a set that has neo magnets on the tip. Supposedly, they are supposed to be very user friendly because you can put a tracer BB on the outside of the body panel, and the BB will follow wherever the magnetized tool tip goes. The idea of using a BB kind of retracts from learning the tip position by looking at the lines on the board, but people learn differently. I figure it couldn't hurt.
 
@Ermagerd I saw a YouTube demo on that rod by a Brit. It looked pretty decent, but one has to consider access to the back of the dent and a usable leverage point.To do my hood, for example I'd probably have to remove the insulation- and likely the hood itself. And then there is the rear quarter panel...

The magnetic ball could be useful though, it's still on the consideration list.

I'm also thinking before I buy a bunch of tools, I should get a few estimates, just to see if that might be more cost/time efficient.
 
I just got the tool set, and I'm returning them tomorrow. The magnet idea is cool, but not when it's encased by nylon. Those tips look extremely prone to breakage. I'm going to spend the extra money and piece together a kit through PDR Finesse and Dent Gear.
 
Congrats. Very nice price. There was a hail storm about 5 years ago in Knoxville that utterly caused havoc. (primarily South of Kingston Pike)
Most folks kept the money that insurance companies provided for the hail repairs. To this day, provides for some great deals provided OCD is not too strong...
 
@mtnracer I'm curious, would you care to tell me how much it ran to get all those pock marks out of yours? I'm trying to see if it's more cost effective to figure out what tools I'd have to buy as well as the time, or just have someone do it. As to filling it, I can just see all that bondo sliding off after a few years... yuck!

@Junglejack What I was really OCD about was what was under the skin. :)
 
Right on amigo. Me too. Had I been living up there when it happened, I would have mos def looked at one with hail damage. I did actually purchase mine in Knoxville, but it was April 2013 and the truck lived in VA at the time of the storm. Speaking, there is a practical cottage industry here of shops that fix hail damage quite reasonably should the desire ever arise.
 
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