What have i got and Tuning etc

[joef]

Hey Guys,

I have just joined this site and found a heap of useful info. I am still a little confused as to what model I own but I am sure you can help out!
Checking my chassis number i have a FJ60 that was made in 1993. Being i live in Ecuador, South America it may be different then the what you guys have in the USA click here for photos? It has the same body shape as the 80 (from looking at the photos) its a manual and has the basic carburetter engine with a normal distributer and points. What do I have?

One of the biggest problems I have is hard starting and poor power, we live at 10´000 feet and I am not sure how the timing should be set? The local mechanic does it by ear(!) but I am sure this is not correct? Also what is the gap the points and plugs should be set at as I can not find these details? I end up running up and down the Andes so would like a way of setting the timing for the coast and the mountains, any ideas.

Thanks in Advance

 

[cruiser88]

You need to be over here https://forum.ih8mud.com/forumdisplay.php?f=9 Where they can help you properly. That would be the the 80's section. Welcome

 

[2mbb]

You need to be over here https://forum.ih8mud.com/forumdisplay.php?f=9 Where they can help you properly. That would be the the 80's section. Welcome

But what do the US 80 series guys know about carburetors and distributors with points???

Joe: I think some pictures of your engine or at least an engine model would be helpful...If you're at 10,000 ft all the time, then you could advance your timing some--the stock 2F engine is timed at 7 degrees before top dead center (BTDC). It also has high altitude compensation that advances the timing an addtional 7 degrees when over ~5000ft elevation. Not knowing what engine you have it makes to tough to say where your timing should be. Your carburetor may also need to be rejetted to compensate for the high altitude. However, if you're dealing with a Toyota F series gasoline engine, the power is going to be low to start with and with altitude it only gets worse. But that's a relative comment.

 

[joef]

Engine

Thanks for the replies.

The engine is a 3F (big sticker on the engine!), inline 6cylinder gasoline engine with carburetter, points etc. I think that it has the 80 body shape but has NO electronics so has the same engine found in the late 60`s. Any idea on the history of these? Can I look up different models onine?

A good start would be for me to find out what the point and plug gaps should be!? Then the timing....and the correct jet sizes. Here in Ecuador its hard to find some parts so I just want to make it run as best as possible.
Any ideas why it suffers from hard starting? I have to pump the gas peddle loads to get it going! When its warm its fine.

Thanks guys for sharing your knowledge

 

[cruiser88]

Oh hell i seen 1993 and just went to a asumption sorry

 

[joef]

no worries all help is needed......

 

[flybynight]

plugs: ND, w14ex-u or NGK, BP4EY

gap: 0.8mm or 0.031in

if you can't find a factory manual. Max Ellery's book from Australia has good coverage of the 3f w/o injection. It can be found in a lot of places online.

 

[flybynight]

7 degrees BTDC @ 900rpm max is correct for 3f as well.

 

[agent orange]

Oh hell i seen 1993 and just went to a asumption sorry

It is an 80, it just has a carbed 3f. I would be willing to bet somebody blew the 3fe and sourced a carbed 3f for it.

 

[joef]

I am fairly sure the engine is original. Down here in South America you can still buy a Toyota FJ Cruiser with a carbed engine, it is the square shaped one, they use for 4x4 ambulances...

I just think that you have different vehicles up in the USA for smog checks, ect.

 

[cruiser88]

I am fairly sure the engine is original. Down here in South America you can still buy a Toyota Curzer with a carbed engine, it is the square shapped one, they use for 4x4 ambulanes...

I just think that you have different vehicles up in the USA for smog checks, ect.

This is true along with austrailia

 

[joef]

Points and Plugs

Thanks for the info so far but can any one tell me the points and plug gaps as I want to give it the once over tomorrow.

 

[flybynight]

I gave plug info already......
I think point gap is .oo8

 

[joef]

I gave plug info already......
I think point gap is .oo8

thanks.....I did not get this.....I don´t think so

So i take it thats not metric ? 0.008

and for the points?

Thanks guys

 

[2mbb]

thanks.....I did not get this.....I don´t think so

So i take it thats not metric ? 0.008

and for the points?

Thanks guys

not metric (mm) but inches. However, it seems to be a small gap. I can't find information on the 3F with a points distributor, but the F and 2F with points had a point gap of 0.018 inches. (41 degrees dwell). If you have access to a dwell meter, dwell is a more accurate reading.

Here is my reference for the F & 2F--click on the link for fig 2.: gasoline engine...

http://www.autozone.com/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/18/85/b4/0900823d801885b4/repairInfoPages.htm

 

[flybynight]

checking my books.....
the 3f-E has gap @ .008in which converts to 0.2mm this is refering to air gap.

however my Aussie book says...for 3f engine both fuel delivery systems it says 41 degree dwell angle +/- 4 degree. they don't have a gap measure.
in the same book for 2f it lists.....
Air gap (USA FJ series).......0.2-0.4mm or 0.008-0.016in
Rubbing block gap (others).................0.30mm or 0.0118in

FSM is mia so I can't offer that detail as well