What do you guys know about making leaf spring packs

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Im looking at refreshing my rear suspension. My taco has a wicked ghetto lean to the left and thats partly due to the super soft and worn in deaver 8 leaf springs I currently have in there. They were origionally 2.5" lift springs, and they are sagged to stock height and maybe even lower on the left side. The truck hits the bump stops going over train tracks and are almost sitting on the bumps with my tool box filled with trail gear. Now i bought a set of all pro expedition springs for a good deal, but they are designed for 3 inchs of lift with 800lbs of stuff in the bed. I would like to take some leafs off the deavers and use the main leafs off the all pros for some stiffness and make a 5 or 6 leaf pack. Obviously the truck will sit ass high for a bit, but i figure after a few wheeling trips they should sag down. Anyone have any tips, i never really messed around with leaf springs that much, mostly just swapping in entire packs, so what are some do's and donts. Dont say 4 link it because thats not happening.
 
Its pretty strait forward (dont weld on them :D)

I would set the deavers aside for now and pull a leaf or two from the all pro's. It sounds like you need a softer and lower ride than the all pros provide. Pulling a leaf(s) from those packs should do that. Once you start mixing the packs then you are dealing with a lot of unknown variables (spring rate, spring fatigue, spring arch, spring dimensions etc....) I just think it would be easier to keep the unknowns to a minimum. if you cant get the allpros where you want them, then maybe try to tweek them by mixing in some deaver stuff.
 
Thats kinda what i was thinking. I have until spring to think about it i guess, not working on this thing in the "cold" lol!! The main goal is to get some weight carrying capacity back since i do use this as a truck occasionally while maintaing about the same ammount of lift and roughly the same offroad manners. Flex is not THAT important since my truck doesnt flex for s*** anyway. Plus i think a little stiffer of a spring may kill some of the axle wrap i currently get.
 
ooooooo who?
 
Might be someone you know..... But the admission is granted by winning 2/3 games of beer pong
 
Who does he have to play?
 
I have made several sets of my own spring packs



Its a crap shoot on how they will work & how long they will hold their position.
Not worth it if you don't have too



I agree with John, he is infallible, after all






I would 4 link it
 
Jeremy9A said:
Might be someone you know..... But the admission is granted by winning 2/3 games of beer pong
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Fxxx that ill just go buy a lift and a torch!!

Tony: This will mostly be a fun little project for me to fxxx around with until i can afford some new deavers or install 63" chevys. That wont be until at least next year, so if they hold together for a wheeling season, kickass!! If not they just have to last a year lol!! Now that the lefty and doubler is finished, i need another project to render my now ok daily driver/wheeler, into a completely undriveable, unreliable hunk of s***!!
 
NwiTACO said:
Swap in some 63's and be donw with it.
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That would be the plan, but i want to get a new frame under here from toyota so i want the least ammount of s*** welded to the frame as possible. They already were giving me crap about my sliders, i think i can hack those off in an afternoon though. After the frame swap though, its on!! Chevy 63s, a traction bar and a cage. Even if i do get chevy 63s, thats not the end all be all, you still have to custom build the packs if you get them from the junk yard, and evrey few years they wear out, from what ive read.
 
Just switched to 63's on my '05 and what a difference. Ride height is about 1" over what my 3" AP had before they sagged. The ride is 10x better than I expected, or than my old springs. If they get bad enough, quick enough, I will swap in a new used set.

From my reading they last fine as long as the OL is left in or a traction bar is used. I finally got the rest of my traction bar parts from Ballistic, but didnt have the time to fab it up, so for now I left the OL in.
 
nice!! Yea I was crawling all over tbobs old truck at fall crawl two years ago and was sold on the 63s then. I would go with deavers again if i had the $$, part of my problem I was using the shocks as the bump stops for almost 4 years and killed the springs.
 
And grinding?
 
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