Warn 5687 questions

[Brother]

I'm new to electric winches, having PTO's in the past. Is there a quick way to make some connections for electrical to test and see if it works?
Assuming it works, it appears that it can only be used from the outside by standing directly at the winch itself?
Has anyone designed a cable to operate the brake from inside and to run power through a solenoid/rocker/toggle switch which can also be run from inside?
Or, is the building of a remote switch best suited for this winch?
Thanks for any help

 

[77TLCFJ40]

Never heard of a 5687. Do you mean 8274?

 

[45Kevin]

Looks like that winch does not have a remote option. You could test it with jumper cables. It was discontinued in the early 70's I think.

 

[Brother]

The 5687 is the predecessor to the 8274. The archaic braking system is the only drawback to this winch that I can see, and I intend to fab a cable disc brake and lose the stock system.
I used jumper cables and found the motor to work the reel in fine, but with some noise. I'm in the process of dismantling it to check for any inner problems.
Thanks to those who have linked schematics for this winch.
Am still interested in wiring schematic for a good solenoid switch and which solenoid is most preferred too would help.
Thanks

 

[80t0ylc]

Whoa, brother. The brake system on a winch is not a thing you want to experiment on if you're new to electrics. I think Warn went away from these winches for a reason. Not to mention the fact that they don't power out. I'd see if I could find a good used 8274 and rebuild it. Just an opinion.

 

[Brother]

Here in the Pacific NW I've used a winch for over 29 years. This one being my first electric. yea, it's old school but it will suit my needs just fine. Dragging out the occasion log for firewood, pulling someone out of a bind and maybe even getting myself unstuck. If I can't climb it, I certainly aren't planning on winching up it.
Anyway, I've done a couple of hours researching parts for this thing and am ready to rebuild it.
The internals weren't too bad save for some hard case missing on a few gear teeth from the water that was sitting inside.
All of the bearings and seals are still available. Snap rings too obviously.
About the brake...the way this is currently set up reminds me of the 1935 Plymouth coupe I had with a driveline emergency brake set up. Forget to release it and drive off and next thing you know there's a fire going on underneath your car. I know apples and oranges. Thing is, there are far superior cable operated disc braking technologies out there and no reason why one couldn't be adapted to this drum.

 

[80t0ylc]

My biggest concern would be safety while winching. Most current electric winches are designed to apply the brake automatically when the drive (in or out) is off. This will generally hold you in place while on a hill when you release the switch. I don't know how this is handled with a PTO, but you mention you're new to electrics. So, I just wanted to emphasize how important the brake can be while winching, especially if you find yourself alone and in a situation where you need to use the winch. IMHO, if you can't trust the brake on a winch, it makes it unsafe to use. And when mistakes, while using a winch, can be a life changing or life ending event, it should give you pause to think.

 

[KonTiki]

The brake on my 8274 hasn't worked since Ive had it. Its an inconvenience occasionally, and I'll be fixing it when I get the funds, but its nothing someone with experience cant handle. The gear is always engaged to the motor, so the line doesnt suddenly go slack. It will simply turn the motor slowly and freewheel back to a lesser tension.

I think the cable operated brake is a great idea, be sure and post up pics when you work something out!

 

[craptabulous]

a lot of winches don't have brakes , its not a big deal . you shouldn't rely on a winch brake to much anyway .