VAIS in 2002 w/ navigation?

[cardyjones]

Does anyone know if you can install VAIS ( for iPod) in a 2002 w/ nav?

I looked at some threads and found something to the effect of 02/03 having the same nav system (generation 3 navigation).

Since 03 can have VAIS, can 02? Or are the audio inputs different on the 02 than 03 so you can't install?

Cardy

 

[pfran42]

I couldn't do it on my 2002 w/nav.

 

[cardyjones]

sucks,
i want a 2002 but i really want ability to play mp3 through a hard wired audio input (not the tape player). DICE messed up someones nav pretty bad, i know the climate knob conversion project is underway, but i am traveling this summer for a big trip and will need good quality audio to keep me company... :-(

fran, how do you play an iPod in yours?

 

[parnoren]

I'm using the TOY-15 (I believe from VAIS) and while it's not perfect I can play my iPod/iphone through the stock radio with perfect sound. I also have Sirius XM going through the device. Works excellent.
Some of the limitations:
No playlists via nav screen
No song titles on nav screen
There are a few more features that doesn't work via the screen but if you can live with using the iPod/iPhone instead of the touch screen you'll be fine. Please remember to use an inline filter to remove any ground loop issues.

 

[cardyjones]

parn,
thanks for the info-

where did you buy this, and how much?
did you do the install? was it difficult?

looks like cruthcfield might sell these....


i don't need the playlist on nav- the audio is what i'm after.

cardy

 

[cardyjones]

i'm assuming the 2002 lx and 2002 lc have the same nav unti, correct?

cardy

 

[parnoren]

Crutchfield two or three years ago. Very easy to install. There are some microswitches on the unit that have to be set in a particular sequence but as this unit was meant for newer vehicles I had to play around until it worked for me. I believe there are three of these microswitches.
It's a little tight behind the trim but it will fit including the ground loop isolator.
This unit also charges your device.
I believe the nav is the same on lc and lx.

 

[cardyjones]

where did you install the unit? on the console? could you send me a photo of the settings if it is easy to get to? does the nav has a "code" to enable/disable like a radio?


cardy

 

[Sverige]

For what it's worth, I bought a VAIS for my 2004 with NAV a couple months ago direct from the company that makes the gizmo. The sound quality is great and iPod control with song/artist/playlist display is nice BUT... to do it over again I would not have bought a VAIS. In many ways it sucks. You're limited to playlists, so if you like to stream radio through your iPhone or if you have a non-Apple phone/music player you're SOL. My wife prefers to stream radio instead of using playlists and i have an Android phone so the VAIS was a big fail for us. Boo. I should have done more research and just found a way to get high quality line in to the factory stereo.

 

[parnoren]

I just checked and I have a USA-Spec PA15-TOY, not a VAIS, although that might be the same thing. I mounted everything behind the trim piece that goes around the radio/nav. I'll take a picture of the satellite radio and also of the screens so you can see what I see.

I can stream radio on my iphone 3G and listen through the system, but maybe that's not what Sverige is looking for.

Pär

 

[Sverige]

I can stream radio on my iphone 3G and listen through the system, but maybe that's not what Sverige is looking for.

Pär

No, that is what I would like to do but can't with my VAIS.

 

[cardyjones]

Is the Nav unit in the 02 LX different than the 02 cruiser?

For some reason, crutchfield says the TOY unit works for the LX w/ nav but not the LC w/nav....

Cardy

 

[parnoren]

While not perfect, the USA SPEC TOY15 was the best way I could find to play my iPhone music through the Nav system 3-4 years ago. Back then they said it would work in the LX470 2002, but after I had dealt with them for a couple of months they decided that the unit wasn't 100% compatible for this year. They even sent me the next model up which I think is the TOY 20. Didn't work so I returned it.

I'm attaching a few pictures that shows what I'm looking at when using the different devices. The TOY15 is set-up under "DISC" so when pressing "DISC" once, the screen with 9 "buttons" comes up. If you press "DISC" again it goes into the 6 disc changer under the armrest. The first picture shows #7 lit up which lets you control the playlists, etc directly from the iPad/iPhone. You can still use the Volume control and other sound settings from the head unit. When #8 is lit the TOY15 unit is almost useless. You can play your first 6 playlists but you don't see any playlist names, artists or songs. Just numbers. You can skip to the next song in your playlist, but that's about it.

Side note; I was able to set the micro switches so that I could see the name of the artist and songs, but when toggling between the radio and the iPod it(TOY15) shut itself down and I had to disconnect the iPod before I could start again. That's why I changed the switches to the current set-up even though I lost the names of the songs, etc.

The next photo is of the screen with #9 lit. This is the satellite radio.

The DISC RPT and the rest of the buttons don't work. The only one that works is the "up" and "down" buttons to the right in the picture when in #8 mode. It jumps 10 tracks ahead or backwards every time you push it.

I placed the iPod/iPhone cable through the ashtray where it's stored and out of the way when not in use.

All in all I'm happy I installed this thing. Much better than the cassette adapter and no comparison with the FM modulator. Yes, it has its downfalls, but until they make a unit especially for our rigs, I'm sticking with this.

 

[cardyjones]

pfran- FYI I just successfully installed a USA SPEC device in my 02 LC w/ NAV and JBL stereo. USA Spec now seems to support our rigs w/ NAV. iPod hooked right up, sounded lightyears ahead of the old cassette adapter. 175 bucks from crutchfield (they sent a great pictoral guide for removing all stereo components on a land cruiser actually!).

10 minute active installation, 30 minutes reading directions prior to starting!


i also installed new infinity speakers up front w/ 2ohm impedance. the old 4ohm speakers were so bad i actually thought they were factory jbls until i went to install the new guys.

thanks again park for your help. i was missing modern conveniences in an otherwise exceptional vehicle, and now i've gotten closer to 2012 when i'm in the hundy.

now i just need to select an xm/sirius radio!

cardy

 

[shidosha01]

pfran- FYI I just successfully installed a USA SPEC device in my 02 LC w/ NAV and JBL stereo. USA Spec now seems to support our rigs w/ NAV. iPod hooked right up, sounded lightyears ahead of the old cassette adapter. 175 bucks from crutchfield (they sent a great pictoral guide for removing all stereo components on a land cruiser actually!).

10 minute active installation, 30 minutes reading directions prior to starting!

i also installed new infinity speakers up front w/ 2ohm impedance. the old 4ohm speakers were so bad i actually thought they were factory jbls until i went to install the new guys.

thanks again park for your help. i was missing modern conveniences in an otherwise exceptional vehicle, and now i've gotten closer to 2012 when i'm in the hundy.

now i just need to select an xm/sirius radio!

cardy

Congrats. I assume you're not experiencing some minor issues as parnoren? Please share more details as to what works. I've contributed towards cruiserops.com but it seems that that project has a ways to go. I really can't stand using the cassette player to play my iPod and I'm leaning towards purchasing the toy20 by USA spec.

 

[shidosha01]

^^^^bump for questions about the work.