Using oil recommended for dpf cars affect performance on non dpf cars?

[slicky rick]

i read this somewhere that using oil for dpf cars; acea rating c2 or c3, on non dpf cars affect performance. Is this true? On non dpf cars using the acea rating a3/b2 would result to smoother performance? Of course assuming all of the same viscosity range...

I might also add... Can we feel the difference of 5w 30 vs 5w 40 on our engines? Will one vibrate more or less? Will the power of one be more pronounced than the other?

 

[tominboise]

A Review of Mineral and Synthetic Base Oils - Bob is the Oil Guy

Spend a few days on this link and report back.....

 

[slicky rick]

I'm now an expert after reading that... But still do not know the answers to my original question of how it affects performance... The "feel" of using such and such oil on certain engines. But the article is good reading... Still searching for The effects of full synthetic oil rating acea c2 or c3 on a non dpf engine...

 

[gaijin]

What oil does your Owner's Manual recommend?

 

[TeCKis300]

There's no need to second guess Toyota here. Use the oil viscosity listed in the manual. There's nothing to be gained by using anything else, and on the contrary, you'll lose something. Either losing efficiency, protection, or causing unexpected wear. There's no vibration to be removed by using higher weight oil. It's a smooth running mill.

The only tailoring as recommended in the manual is regional due to predominant temperatures. Slightly heavier in regions like the middle east. Or slightly lighter for colder regions.

Toyota has spent millions validating the correct oil. If you follow the directions, she'll pay you back in 100s of thousands of trouble free miles.

 

[HRTROB]

I'm now an expert after reading that... But still do not know the answers to my original question of how it affects performance... The "feel" of using such and such oil on certain engines. But the article is good reading... Still searching for The effects of full synthetic oil rating acea c2 or c3 on a non dpf engine...

Just use whatever oil is recommended in the owner's manual and don't worry about it. Have you confirmed that your 200 doesn't have DPF? You need to crawl underneath and check for yourself.

 

[slicky rick]

Well I was able to get the answer I needed. A brother from our neighbor forum shared his knowledge and it was right snack on.. the answer is Yes! Using an oil made for a dpf engine will affect the engine performance negatively and in addition be more costly...

 

[HRTROB]

Well I was able to get the answer I needed. A brother from our neighbor forum shared his knowledge and it was right snack on.. the answer is Yes! Using an oil made for a dpf engine will affect the engine performance negatively and in addition be more costly...

Care to explain how it affects a non-DPF engine? The engines are exactly the same, only difference is the DPF which needs low SAPS oil. I don't understand how using low SAPS oil on the same engine without a DPF will affect it negatively.

 

[slicky rick]

From what I understood, the dpf compatible oils are more refined and have lower lubrlicity. To compensate there are more additives which make it expensive. Additives in time get worn out easier so in longer running times the non dpf compatible oil perform better. This was how I understood it

 

[HRTROB]

This is from the owner's manual of a 2017 LC200. Says to use API CF-4, CF or ACEA B1