Two different engine oil filter sizes?

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Swampcruiser45 said:
Yet some are saying it's their top choice. My land cruiser mechanic uses purolator. I dont believe Toyota is making that filter themselves. It seems like everyone on here has such different opinions on little issues
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Please use Wix filters on your Land Cruiser.
 
Swampcruiser45 said:
That's what I'm using currently because o'Reilly's didnt have the purolator. Is six you choice?
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Have you done any reading on the forum regarding Wix oil filters? If not, also set aside a slush fund for a new short block...

I honestly don't understand playing with fire if there's no need. OEM oil filters cost me $15 or something from Partsouq, why run the risk?
 
Swampcruiser45 said:
That's what I'm using currently because o'Reilly's didnt have the purolator. Is six you choice?
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No.

I used to be an avid Wix filter user. After seeing the failures here with two specific part numbers, I have stopped using them.

I can buy Toyota filters for $4.75 each (shipped) which is equal or less than I can buy a Wix for locally.

To me it's not worth the risk. For the price of the filter, I'm not going to risk $8000 Worth of work.

I've even stopped using Wix on my Chrysler and Studebaker as well. Mopar for the Chrysler and AC Delco for the Stude.

Age has brought wisdom.
 
AussieHJCruza said:
Have you done any reading on the forum regarding Wix oil filters? If not, also set aside a slush fund for a new short block...

I honestly don't understand playing with fire if there's no need. OEM oil filters cost me $15 or something from Partsouq, why run the risk?
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Well all I know is people say dont use this, and then another says yes use that
 
I use the Purolator PBL30001 - "Boss" 15,000 mile filter. $10 on Amazon. Silicone anti-drainback valve and will filter up to 27 grams of dirt. Also, made in North Carolina. Very sturdy feeling filter.
 
zapatius said:
I use the Purolator PBL30001 - "Boss" 15,000 mile filter. $10 on Amazon. Silicone anti-drainback valve and will filter up to 27 grams of dirt. Also, made in North Carolina. Very sturdy feeling filter.
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That's what I normally use. But this o'riley didnt have any purolator
 
Swampcruiser45 said:
Well all I know is people say dont use this, and then another says yes use that
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So I will say this. After the oil change I noticed I was a little over full after running the engine. So I loosened up the filter to drain a little off but no oil came out. When I change my old filter, oil always comes out. Should I put the old purolator filter back on??
 
Gumby said:
To answer your question

The bigger one has more oil capacity, the smaller one will get the oil pressure up faster on start up. Toyota changed from the bigger to the smaller at some point.



The bigger one is easier to change, but makes a bigger mess when you do.

Either will work fine. Especially if you change the oil far more often than the manufacturer recommends as we all do. If you want real data on oil filters rather than just OEM homers try www.bobistheoilguy.com


It would not be unlike Toyota to have made the change because the smaller one takes up less room on the stock shelf and costs some pennies less to manufacture. They claim the stupid no canister type on the Tundra was to reduce waste in the environment. I find that hard to believe since they eliminated recyclable steel and added a little plastic drain thing that will just get thrown away.
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Out of curiosity, whats the part number on the small OEM filter?
 
Swampcruiser45 said:
Well all I know is people say dont use this, and then another says yes use that
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Most of us on this forum own Land Cruisers for a reason. Toyota's design mindset and commitment to quality shine on these trucks. I learnt very quickly on my first cruiser which was a 74 FJ45 that Toyota parts are the best parts to buy for Toyota vehicles. They are superior quality to anything aftermarket and they fit correctly. You will not go wrong with genuine parts, and there are too many horror stories with aftermarket parts, especially Wix oil filters, to run the risk.
I used to use a genuine fuel filter on my VDJ79, even if I had to get from the dealer and it cost $50. Why? Because fuel pump and injectors on a 1VD don't give any change from 10k without labour. For $20 or so, not worth the risk. YMMV
 
RustyS said:
Out of curiosity, whats the part number on the small OEM filter?
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91915-YZZD3 $3.75 Each from McGeorge Toyota oil filter.
90430-12031 $0.86 each for the oil pan plug seal.
With shipping it ends of being about $4.75 total with oil plug seal. I order 6 at a time, but my truck is a DD and I change oil every 6000-7000 miles and I put on 15K-20K per year.

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FYI My son works at O'Reilly so I get a great deal on parts and I still will not use a Wix on my LC.
 
Swampcruiser45 said:
Thanks. I'm 15 miles from an auto parts store. Should I put the dirty purolator back on? That's all I've ever ran
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None of the Purolator brand have been proven to fail like the Wix and Napa Gold.

I understand the distance from the supplier.

I buy my stuff online and it's delivered in a few days.

So, long and short, you could reinstall the Purolator, order new Toyota filters online, then R/R with a Toyota filter when they arrive at your house.

It's the drainback valve in the Wix and NAPA Gold filters that fail, and make it so the oil doesn't go back into the engine. You may have dodged a huge bullet here.

My brother was a Truck shop superintendent for a trucking company and he tracked a multitude of filter brands and their failure rates as well as filter capability across all the fleet. They ran regular oil analysis testing to monitor the health of the engines. I used his data to purchase a lifetime of Wix filters for all my vehicles.

After seeing the failures here, I am very concerned that a single part number (two, actually) would have so many failures on a niche model that only has about 10K a year into the USA. That is enough for me to jump ship. I'm not made of money. Cars and trucks are my hobby, my "golf game". The Land Cruiser is the most reliable vehicle on the planet and I want to keep mine that way. I grew up fixing EVERYTHING and have learned through experience that just because a part is "inexpensive" doesn't mean it's good. I have found sources here to purchase quality OEM parts for equal or less money than I can buy the aftermarket stuff and be made specific for the vehicle.

Again, respectfully, don't use the Wix.
 
BILT4ME said:
None of the Purolator brand have been proven to fail like the Wix and Napa Gold.

I understand the distance from the supplier.

I buy my stuff online and it's delivered in a few days.

So, long and short, you could reinstall the Purolator, order new Toyota filters online, then R/R with a Toyota filter when they arrive at your house.

It's the drainback valve in the Wix and NAPA Gold filters that fail, and make it so the oil doesn't go back into the engine. You may have dodged a huge bullet here.

My brother was a Truck shop superintendent for a trucking company and he tracked a multitude of filter brands and their failure rates as well as filter capability across all the fleet. They ran regular oil analysis testing to monitor the health of the engines. I used his data to purchase a lifetime of Wix filters for all my vehicles.

After seeing the failures here, I am very concerned that a single part number (two, actually) would have so many failures on a niche model that only has about 10K a year into the USA. That is enough for me to jump ship. I'm not made of money. Cars and trucks are my hobby, my "golf game". The Land Cruiser is the most reliable vehicle on the planet and I want to keep mine that way. I grew up fixing EVERYTHING and have learned through experience that just because a part is "inexpensive" doesn't mean it's good. I have found sources here to purchase quality OEM parts for equal or less money than I can buy the aftermarket stuff and be made specific for the vehicle.

Again, respectfully, don't use the Wix.
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So yeah like I said I was going to loosen the wix filter to drain off a little overfill and zero oil came out. But after this discussion I went out a loosened it and oil came out. That foes have me concerned. This is in a 2f. I bought the fj60 from Dennis at blacklist cruisers, he said he always uses purolator and that all I've used in it for 3 years . It's a daily driver. So I guess I'd be okay putting the dirty purolator on it and change it out tomorrow
 
Any Toyota dealership should have the D3 filters in stock, they fit several different US market engines.
 
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