Tundra long travel suspension for my 200

[RHIN0]

 

[bjowett]

A higher rate coil spring on the main along with secondary bypass shock and that could be quite fun.

 

[mdtwyne]

Wider track and clearance can be had with lower wheel offsets right? Just trying to figure out if this is something of a must have performance mod in the future...

I have the same question as Obi Wong. I appreciate the answer about different impacts on scrub radius. But I’d love to dig deeper into differences and hear input from those smarter than me about which differences actually matter in practical terms (not just a few % points of undetectable theoretical gain).

1.Instinct tells me longer arms and bigger offsets are stronger vs just lower offset wheels.

2. Longer arms would give some additional lift height vs same track width achieved solely via wheel offset.

3. Longer arm puts more leverage on shock. Different motion ratio.

4. Longer arm gives room for longer shock.

5. Lower wheel offset is much quicker, easier, and cheaper. (Longer arms restrict wheel and tire width options to a degree.)

6. Tundra parts are cheaper if something needs to be replaced.

Thoughts? Am I missing (or misunderstanding) anything? Thanks!

 

[bloc]

I have the same question as Obi Wong. I appreciate the answer about different impacts on scrub radius. But I’d love to dig deeper into differences and hear input from those smarter than me about which differences actually matter in practical terms (not just a few % points of undetectable theoretical gain).

1.Instinct tells me longer arms and bigger offsets are stronger vs just lower offset wheels.

2. Longer arms would give some additional lift height vs same track width achieved solely via wheel offset.

3. Longer arm puts more leverage on shock. Different motion ratio.

4. Longer arm gives room for longer shock.

5. Lower wheel offset is much quicker, easier, and cheaper. (Longer arms restrict wheel and tire width options to a degree.)

6. Tundra parts are cheaper if something needs to be replaced.

Thoughts? Am I missing (or misunderstanding) anything? Thanks!

Don't forget that using wheel offset also solves the rear track width, unlike tundra arms, where you’d need to run spacers in the back.

3rd item is only true if the lower shock mount doesn’t move out proportional to the arm length increase.

And scrub radius (really) matters if you like braking stability. Stock, the braking forces are centered around the spot that the steering pivot hits the ground, balancing everything out. When you move the tire outward without moving the steering pivot out as well, any extra force on one side will tend to impart a steering force on that side also, leading to instability and twitchyness under hard braking.

Plus, moving the tire outward means more clearance issues at the rear of the wheelwell, even the body mount.

If you want to read up on what you’re asking about ends up doing, look for the posts about -25 offset wheels.