Toyota killing off 70 series (1 Viewer)

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and where is your Troopie .. ? ( we need an thread update )

Tapage,

The troopie is, uh, resting. I rather burned myself out with work, and took nearly all of the past year off. So, unable to continue spending, Crushers had to move on to other projects. It is not always easy to wait for that car.
It was well worthwhile taking the time, i must say. I am back at work something fierce now: today was day 20 of 24 or maybe even 31 consecutive days at work. Crushers did delay two other builds during the troopie era, and now it is my turn to wait.
I am certain we will all know about it when it gets back in his workshop.
 
VEHICLE STABILITY SYSTEM ? WHEN I DRIVE THRU WATER AND THE WHOLE DRIVING COMPUTER BARBEQUES ME ?THIS IS A VERRY BAD IDEA !

BHP CAN HIRE A ARMY OFF COMPUTER EXPERTS ALREADY TO KEEP THIR FLEET RUNNING..:mad:

IT WOULD BE A BIG LOOSE FOR TOYOTA AS WELL !:crybaby:
 
Technology might overtake them. Emissions free vehicles would be a big plus underground. Maybe 2027 models will be battery powered.
Fleet owners could greatly reduce their parts reliance.
 
Technology might overtake them. Emissions free vehicles would be a big plus underground. Maybe 2027 models will be battery powered.
Fleet owners could greatly reduce their parts reliance.

Indeed.

All toyota vehicles are pretty much going to electric/hybrid/hydrogen by 2050.

I know I won't be around to see it but it will be pretty cool to see a 7x as an electric or hybrid.
 
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The 2050 Toyota Land Cruiser
 
Several auto makers (like Volvo, Jaguar, and Land Rover) are pledging to go all electric by 2020 or something like that but I don't see Toyota doing that. Seems like some EU countries are starting to shy away from diesel as well.
 
Several auto makers (like Volvo, Jaguar, and Land Rover) are pledging to go all electric by 2020 or something like that but I don't see Toyota doing that. Seems like some EU countries are starting to shy away from diesel as well.

You can add Mazda to the list as well.

I think, IIRC, that Toyota will cease sale of internal combustion engines by 2050.
 
Several auto makers (like Volvo, Jaguar, and Land Rover) are pledging to go all electric by 2020 or something like that but I don't see Toyota doing that. Seems like some EU countries are starting to shy away from diesel as well.

Hello,

The EU attitude towards diesel is intended to distract the public attention from (or even cover up) the German car makers' mistakes. Namely, the diesel engines fraud and their questionable business practices: conflict of interests, collusion, forcing suppliers into unrealistic goals, among others.

We have discussed at length about the fact that there is a limit to the power and EGTs of diesel engines. German designers seem to have chosen not to accept this.

Other manufacturers redesign their products or play by the rules. Not the Germans.






Juan
 
Indeed.

All toyota vehicles are pretty much going to electric/hybrid/hydrogen by 2050.

I know I won't be around to see it but it will be pretty cool to see a 7x as an electric or hybrid.

I think you will be around. This is taking off quick. Nissan just announced they are getting 400klms from their Leaf. Tesla models are all getting 300+ klms now. Mercedes have begun using batteries that are designed to fit the shape of the car.
 
Remove internal combustion engines from the highways because they pollute.

Replace them with electric automobiles whose power source is often coal-fired electrical plants in many countries.

That's the ticket.
 
Remove internal combustion engines from the highways because they pollute.

Replace them with electric automobiles whose power source is often coal-fired electrical plants in many countries.

That's the ticket.

Yes but the amount of greenhouse gases from the coal fired plant is still about half what your engine is making to produce the same amount of power. That's why the world is trending towards batteries. And if you add wind and solar farms to the grid it gets even better. I am actually looking forward to having an electric motor up front some day.
 
Just my opinion but I don't think the earth has enough natural resources to support an earth filled with only battery powered vehicles. Some of the key elements used to manufacture these batteries come from China so I am not surprised China is one of the countries pushing for this trend. It is a good move for them in a more economic sense rather than environmental.

Then there is the issue of disposing of all these batteries when they are dead. Not exactly environmentally friendly either. Will have to develop a way to recycle all of them.
 
Yes but the amount of greenhouse gases from the coal fired plant is still about half what your engine is making to produce the same amount of power. That's why the world is trending towards batteries. And if you add wind and solar farms to the grid it gets even better. I am actually looking forward to having an electric motor up front some day.

Hello,

Actually about 70% of greenhouse gas emissions come from coal-fired power plants. The rest comes from automotive emissions. Controlling coal emissions is the key to the global warming problem.

But it is easier to point fingers at cars than it is to coal. Ideology trying to prevail by twisting the facts and using the environment as an excuse, but that is just my opinion.

Yes, batteries can be very difficult to recycle. Many hazardous chemicals to deal with, but that fact is conveniently omitted in the EV descriptions. As is the fact that electric vehicle sales are heavily dependent on government subsidies. Again, ideology twisting the facts for its benefit. But in the end, pragmatism prevails over ideology.

On the other hand, some technologies are here to stay, such as hybrid propulsion and fuel cells. The latter is still expensive but in time it will become affordable.

By 2050 we will be either gone or too old to drive. Nevertheless, I expect to see a 70 Series with hybrid drive or a fuel cell well before then.







Juan
 
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Just my opinion but I don't think the earth has enough natural resources to support an earth filled with only battery powered vehicles. Some of the key elements used to manufacture these batteries come from China so I am not surprised China is one of the countries pushing for this trend. It is a good move for them in a more economic sense rather than environmental.

Then there is the issue of disposing of all these batteries when they are dead. Not exactly environmentally friendly either. Will have to develop a way to recycle all of them.

Australia has big known deposits of rare earth minerals and most likely has more. Rare earth are not rare any more.
They were difficult to recycle but they have found ways of doing it. Toyota has a ship that picks them up and takes them to a specialist recycler.
 

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