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PurpleFJ62

PurpleFJ62

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Hey All. I have been looking all thru the forums. Alot of really good info on this site.

I am trying to make sense of all the toyota diesels that you can get in the states.

I am going to do a diesel jeep project this summer and would like to know if there is any toyota diesel engines that I could use. The jeep will be farily beefy so the engine needs to have some muscle. I do not like complex wiring. So if the engine harness can be isolated from my jeeps than we are good.

As the plans are now I will use a Cummins B 3.3 T ag. engine. It is easy to modify for more power and is very simple. Some people with the classic FJ40's might want to check it out.

http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/dev/showthread.php?t=112807&highlight=diesel+jeep

thanks for any help or advice you can give me:beer:
 
You might also consider a Nissan diesel. You have their diesel engines in both Nissan Forklifts and Nissan UD Trucks (http://www.udtrucks.com/) - both widely available in the US. I would look for the UD Trucks. You might be able to spec out a complete engine and tranny from a wreck for a decent price. Make sure you get all the wiring and the computer. The rest you will have to make yourself. Here are some specs from two of their engines:

ENGINE​
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MD-175* 16 valve
Turbo/Intercooled Diesel
In-line 4 cylinder, Direct-injection
Horsepower 175 hp @ 2,700 rpm (automatic transmission)
Torque 347 lb. ft. @ 1,600 rpm (automatic transmission)
Displacement 289 in.3 (4.728 L)
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ENGINE​
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MD-230* 24 Valve
Turbo/Intercooled Diesel
In-line 6 cylinder, Direct-injection
Horsepower 230 hp @ 2,500 rpm
Torque 506 lb. ft. @ 1,500 rpm
Displacement 469 in.3 (7.684 L)

These engines should give you enough zoom.

Or you could just make it easy on yourself and by a diesel Land Cruiser or Nissan Patrol.

Good luck, John​

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PurpleFJ62 said:
Hey All. I have been looking all thru the forums. Alot of really good info on this site.

I am trying to make sense of all the toyota diesels that you can get in the states.

I am going to do a diesel jeep project this summer and would like to know if there is any toyota diesel engines that I could use. The jeep will be farily beefy so the engine needs to have some muscle. I do not like complex wiring. So if the engine harness can be isolated from my jeeps than we are good.

As the plans are now I will use a Cummins B 3.3 T ag. engine. It is easy to modify for more power and is very simple. Some people with the classic FJ40's might want to check it out.

http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/dev/showthread.php?t=112807&highlight=diesel+jeep

thanks for any help or advice you can give me:beer:
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for sale not too far from yah...... https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=140289
 
Cruiser are....

But jeeps with cruiser guts seem to be popular too. I have a truckk trader from western oz and they list jeep clones with FJ40 drivelines. So they do know the jeeps suck somewhat.
 
PurpleFJ62 said:
your located in australia...Are jeeps popular down there? What is popular down there? What powertrains are avail.?
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Toyota have %40 of the 4wd market here and we have imported over 500000 in 30 years in a pop of 20m
Australia is the 2nd biggest market with 10% of world sales after Saudi Arabia
They do everything from taxi cabs to outback emergency vehicles to family wagons.
Every powertrain and vitually every model except some odd bod Japanese variants.

Jeeps on the other hand are considered show pony's that rattle themselves to pieces on "real" roads.
The transmissions overheat in desert sand and shut the computer down.
Virtually unseen outside the big cities in oz .
 
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brownbear said:
Cruiser are....
So they do know the jeeps suck somewhat.
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Only people who know nothing about 4wds or those who never use 4wd buy them.
They will never stop telling you what a good vehicle they are:D
I would love to take a wrangler underground in the goldfields where they broke that Defender in half twice:D
 
geeze, I had no idea jeeps were so s***ty.
What exactly is so bad about a jeep, is it just that cruiser guys dont like them, or is there really a good reason? A design reason...?


I would really love to come to austrailia, have seen pics and it looks amazing. Have met 2 people from down under and both were very nice. I wonder if I can stuff my cruiser on a boat and come for a visit.
 
PurpleFJ62 said:
geeze, I had no idea jeeps were so s***ty.
What exactly is so bad about a jeep, is it just that cruiser guys dont like them, or is there really a good reason? A design reason...?
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Actually they are only crap compared to a Landcruiser or Patrol.
If you compared the top 50 4wds ,Jeep would still be in the top 5 because the others are so bad


I would really love to come to austrailia, have seen pics and it looks amazing. Have met 2 people from down under and both were very nice. I wonder if I can stuff my cruiser on a boat and come for a visit.
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LOL Works out cheaper to buy one when you get here like Rustynailjustin from Pirate 4x4.
If you bought a diesel 60 and some camping gear, 2-3 of you could live and travel a long way relatively cheaply.
Next month I will post up pics of my trip to Uluhru (Ayers Rock) if all goes well;)
 
roscoFJ73 said:
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LOL Works out cheaper to buy one when you get here like Rustynailjustin from Pirate 4x4.
If you bought a diesel 60 and some camping gear, 2-3 of you could live and travel a long way relatively cheaply.
Next month I will post up pics of my trip to Uluhru (Ayers Rock) if all goes well;)
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Have been looking into this as well because I intent to visit Ozzi next year or so.
Appears it's better to buy over there. Then you have a RH-drive rig, hassle about temporarely importing it, having to thouroughly clean and 'desinfect' to get into the country. And don't forget you save the costs and hassle of shipment itself like storing the rig in a container and worry about the condition y'll find it in some weeks later....

No, for me, if I go to visit Ozi for a few months, I'm pretty sure I'll buy over there.
Downside is how to buy a good reliable rig and how to get rid of it without being ripped of because they know you have to sell...
(Apparently near Darwin airport you can find abandoned rigs people could not sell just because of this.)
 
Ron R said:
(Apparently near Darwin airport you can find abandoned rigs people could not sell just because of this.)
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Mmm maybe:D My experience says you can always sell a good running car if the price is right.
They wouldnt last long anyway.The "long grassies" would come in the night and take them .
Long grassies= Homeless people that live in the tall grass on the outskirts of Darwin;)
 
Ron R said:
No, for me, if I go to visit Ozi for a few months, I'm pretty sure I'll buy over there.
Downside is how to buy a good reliable rig and how to get rid of it without being ripped of because they know you have to sell...
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Maybe you should contact Rustynailjustin as his sig line advertises that he has cruisers in both hemispheres.
He couldnt sell either and left it with someone. Its an FJ60 on LPG
 
roscoFJ73 said:
Maybe you should contact Rustynailjustin as his sig line advertises that he has cruisers in both hemispheres.
He couldnt sell either and left it with someone.
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Thanks for the info Rosco. But it's still a bit early to buy. There is still a small discussion going on, here at home. If we go, I feel we should stay for say four to six months or so. The better half of my marriage says that 2 months is more than enough. :confused: The wife doesn't like to be away from home ......

Its an FJ60 on LPG
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I prefer a diesel....
Apart from what I like, would LPG not be a problem doing things like CSR?
I know, you can dump the LPG install, but I like to think: KISS :bounce2: :cheers:
 
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Ron R said:
I prefer a diesel....
Apart from what I like, would LPG not be a problem doing things like CSR?
I know, you can dump the LPG install, but I like to think: KISS :bounce2: :cheers:
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The CSR would be difficult as the LPG can only be refilled at a service station:D
Its also very inefficent 10-20% more than petrol .Its the low price that makes it attractive.

The fuel required for most vehicles is listed somewhere in the exploroz trek notes.
Its when you study them you realize how ideal diesel is for low speed long distance travel.
On some sections of the CSR ,you need to carry 400 litres of fuel for a 6 cyl diesel. Thats about a full tank and 15 jerry cans;)
x 2 for petrol engines
 
roscoFJ73 said:
The CSR would be difficult as the LPG can only be refilled at a service station:D
Its also very inefficent 10-20% more than petrol .Its the low price that makes it attractive.
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Hmmm, extra trailer, extra LPG-tank..... LOL

The fuel required for most vehicles is listed somewhere in the exploroz trek notes.
Its when you study them you realize how ideal diesel is for low speed long distance travel.
On some sections of the CSR ,you need to carry 400 litres of fuel for a 6 cyl diesel. Thats about a full tank and 15 jerry cans;)
x 2 for petrol engines
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I found some info on this some time ago (don't remember or that was on Exploroz) and there they said 250 was sufficient if you had a fuel drop at well (?? 41 ??) Here they were talking about diesel. Diesel rocks !!
Hmm, think I saw it in a documentary (?), a movie about a trip doing CSR...
 
Ron R said:
Hmmm, extra trailer, extra LPG-tank..... LOL


I found some info on this some time ago (don't remember or that was on Exploroz) and there they said 250 was sufficient if you had a fuel drop at well (?? 41 ??) Here they were talking about diesel. Diesel rocks !!
Hmm, think I saw it in a documentary (?), a movie about a trip doing CSR...
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The bit I read allowed for extra fuel to crisscross the track to visit wells and allowances for losing the track and retracing your steps which is common at certain times of the years after the rain has encouraged vegetation to cover the tracks.

Yes fuel drops are possible,there is a phone number somewhere.
Im not sure if my figure took a fuel drop into account.

Up to date infomation is vital as the conditions can change rapidly;)

When you have done the CSR you should go on and do the Gibb River Rd;)It will be a breeze after the CSR
Or it could be an alternative to the CSR if time constraints become a problem
http://www.discoverwest.com.au/western_australia/gibb_river_road.html
 
Thanks again Rosco.
Great info. That Gibb River Road looks very promising.
If we go we will be in a group of 4 to 6 cars (all Dutchies) so we will have to talk to the others about it, but since some of the group members are a bit worried about safety on CSR this might be a valuable alternative.
 
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