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sk8salomon

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I bought my toyos from tread depot...good price and had the tires in about two days.
 
Cooper has a 37" STT or STT Pro. I think on discounttiredirect.com it was just over $300.
 
Go Fourth Tire in Knoxville will beat anyone's price on tires. Plus he has bead lock wheels in stock. Oh forgot to mention he has almost any size tire in stock.
 
I dig the new STT pro, I may have to test those out on something when the time comes.

As far as rim size, 17 is the new 15. 15s are getting harder to come by and 17s seem to be the new norm. And from what I've seen, there are VERY few options larger than 35 for a 16" wheel. So if you're looking to make the bump to 37s then you may want to see if you can pick up a set of 17s while your at it.

When the trail 80 needs new shoes I'm gonna go towards a set of maxxis treps or creepy crawlers.
 
jynx said:
I dig the new STT pro, I may have to test those out on something when the time comes.
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I'm a big fan of my Cooper STTs. Their trail and road manners are great. I'll likely try out the Pro version when I wear these out.
 
i run a 17inch wheel & tire... 15's are "old-school" nowdays...better selection in the 16's and 17 sizes.
 
Another consideration is a warranty with offroad tires. I have had good luck with 4 wheel parts but there are others with unconditional warranties. 17 is the way to go, issue is finding a rim with correct back spacing, I was unable to find one on the shelf so running wheel spacers as I did not have time to wait for MRW to build a set, you need to plan a couple months ahead of going custom rims.
 
FYI.... I run the 17 inch black steel wheels off a FJ cruiser. spacer not required on the front axle but is required on the back axle with the tires I have because without the spacer the tire scrubs the inside fender wheel hard off road. On my truck the inside fenderwells have some sharp edges and this actually shaves rubber off the tire without the spacer. I guess I might could get in there with a hammer and punch or something and try and bend down this sharp edge (but I've not done anything about that...I should though), except to run spacers on the wheels. I bought the wheels from a friend for about $40 each (pull-offs from dealer)...I think you can find them at times for around $50 or so each. My tires are 35*17*12.50...if the tire were a little narrower I think there would be no issue with the cruiser wheels. I think there is another similar wheel in a different size that toyota makes, but for now I run the 17 inch one from the FJ cruiser. At some point I plant to buy some type of black steel wheel where no spacers are required. I"ve never had an issue with the spacer and I prefer the spidertrax brand because I think they are well made and I use blue locitite on the threads that hold the spacer to the hub.

My truck has a 3-4 inch suspension lift and a 2 inch body lift...so my issues may not be universal to all setups. I do get minor tire scrub offroad but I'm not sure that can be managed any better and stay with the configuration I have, I don't want to cut up the body.

I do run spacers front and rear....just for the hell of it at this point, but as noted...it is required on the rear due to tire scrub on the inside fenderwell with my setup. No issues with clearance of the brake caliper or steering components.
 
jynx said:
I dig the new STT pro, I may have to test those out on something when the time comes.

As far as rim size, 17 is the new 15. 15s are getting harder to come by and 17s seem to be the new norm. And from what I've seen, there are VERY few options larger than 35 for a 16" wheel. So if you're looking to make the bump to 37s then you may want to see if you can pick up a set of 17s while your at it.

When the trail 80 needs new shoes I'm gonna go towards a set of maxxis treps or creepy crawlers.
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DSLTOY said:
Another consideration is a warranty with offroad tires. I have had good luck with 4 wheel parts but there are others with unconditional warranties. 17 is the way to go, issue is finding a rim with correct back spacing, I was unable to find one on the shelf so running wheel spacers as I did not have time to wait for MRW to build a set, you need to plan a couple months ahead of going custom rims.
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Interesting preference for the 17 inch rim size.
Knowing that availability of decent sized tires for 15 inch rims is rapidly becoming non-viable, I started to compare tire sizes in the 33-34 inch diameter and 9-11 inch width. For my criteria, the 16 inch rim size offered more selection and a tremendous cost savings over 17 inch rims (range was typically 30-50%). As a result, my planning and focus has been on 15 inch rims. Looks like I may need to re-run the data to be sure that I don't make a bad move.

Regarding replacement rims, I started researching trailer rims in 16 inch (6 lugs on 5.5 inch centers). Initial results were showed steel rims in 7-8 inch widths that had reasonable resemblance to original Toyota rims for ~$100 per rim. However, backspacing was rarely defined for the trailer rims and when it was they were centered. This implied that BS of 3.5-4 inches with these rims. My preference is not to use spacers so I don't know how they would fit. As a result, I have considered buying one rim and doing a fit check but that could be very wasteful if it didn't fit as desired. Do any of you have more experience and knowledge with trailer rims?

Thanks
 
I use a 16inch wheel on my trailer because it came with a 15inch ST tire that was garbage and I found that the 16inch size offered up far more options....in my limited research on etrailer.com I did not see a 17inch trailer wheel offered and so there may not be such a thing or if there is ...etrailer does not carry it.

Trailer wheels are very limited in design and backspacing (my view).... you have about three basic designs (i'm sure there are others)..but you have the old school solid wheel, you have the old school wagon wheel, and you have one they call modular that has multiple circular holes. I don't know the backspacing on trailer wheels as I just bought the same thing and same brand wheel and just moved from 15 in a modular trailer wheel to a 16 in a modular wheel.

there is a thread over in the main forum that talks about "wheels that work"...but many of the posters there seem to forget to post all the relevant details, one that is key is the pn of the wheel in questions and the tire size used. I know procomp/4wheelparts makes a wheel (black steel modular type design) in 17inch that is not suppose to need spacers etc, another board member stated he had the same wheels on 17 *35*12.50 on a 60 with no issue. It only takes the mfg some 2-3 months to get the wheels though...

I think with the 17 inch wheel the only real issue is the width of the wheel itself and the backspacing.
 
From what I've seen, 35 (315) and down you are going to find the largest selection in a 16" wheel. That is the most popular wheel size in the world I believe so stands to reason you'll find most manufatuters making tons of sizes and models.

For larger than 35s, you are gonna start seeing the bigger wheels, 17s, 18s, 20s, etc. For the 37, 39, 42, etc. The Hutchensons DOT deadlocks only come in a 17, as do the Walker Evans comp wheels. That just seems to be the size of choice for the comp market right now.

The exception is the KM2 in 345 I think, but those things are like hens teeth from what I've seen and heard, but those are 16s.

When I'm tire shopping I generally will go to 4wheelparts.com and play with their tire selector. They carry most all the major brands and seem to list just about any size you can imagine. Exception is Cooper, I don't recall seeing any Coopers listed by them.
 
thanks for the input guys. Something else i'm wondering is tire/wheel weight ratio. Going larger on the wheel diameter means more steel & less rubber so does anybody see any difference in performance, trail vs road? Is the weight difference between a 37x1250R15 vs 37x1250R17 not enough to make a huge deal? How about sidewall flex when aired down? You would think less sidewall is a bad thing but maybe not.
 
Obviously more weight with the bigger wheels and rims and it takes a toll on your brakes. I got toyo mud terrains and they are fantastic. Excellent in the GA mud and very quiet on the highway compared to my old maxis tires. The also took minimum weight to balance. I run a 255/85/16 so they are smaller than what you are discussing.
 
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