Tire question due to procrastination (1 Viewer)

[SR.GRINGO]

I asked a while back and the general consensus was go with the 315/75-16 Goodyear MTR---so now that I went to order they aren't shipping due to Iraq I need to get something soon and here in Mexico the BFG M/T goes for $185---would you guys agree this is the second best tire compared to the MTR? I wheel every other weekend and rarely get on the freeway. The geolander II AT's would be an option but the price would work out to be higher than the BFG M/T´s.

 

[e9999]

I asked a while back and the general consensus was go with the 315/75-16 Goodyear MTR---so now that I went to order they aren't shipping due to Iraq I need to get something soon and here in Mexico the BFG M/T goes for $185---would you guys agree this is the second best tire compared to the MTR? I wheel every other weekend and rarely get on the freeway. The geolander II AT's would be an option but the price would work out to be higher than the BFG M/T´s.

Firestone Dest MT if it's available in 315?

 

[Arya Ebrahimi]

*cough* swampers *cough*

Damn it, I think I have Junkitis

 

[SR.GRINGO]

Firestone Dest MT if it's available in 315?

Eric,

I agree with you--this is the best rated tire out there but the largest size is the 285---wish they would make it in a 315 or I could quit worrying about the extra 1.5". I ran the revo 285 on my 4Runner and it was great just wanted to size up to a 35 with the cruiser........

Jason

 

[SR.GRINGO]

*cough* swampers *cough*

Damn it, I think I have Junkitis

I would go this route except I think I would only get around 10k out of the swampers--I was hoping to hit closer to 30k.....

 

[Tools R Us]

Nitto just came out with a mud in 35-12.5/16.

http://www.nittotire.com/tires_mudgrappler.asp

 

[Bryan E.]

I'm running the 315 MTR currently, had BFG A/T last time, and BFG MT's before that. If you're going to run a lot of pavement, then I like the BFG A/T. I got over 45K on my last set, and they had about 10K left, but I went to the larger MTR. I liked my old BFG MT's and never had any sidewall issues but they don't have as strong as a sidewall as the MTR. The MT's are supposed to do a little better in the Mud.... I saw a review on the new Toyo MT and I've seen them listed in this size. The magazine really liked them, said they were very quiet... sounded worth checking out. I also like the Nitto Mud Grappler if you can find it in this size.

 

[Trapper]

After running a set of BFG MT's on my last truck and comparing them to my current MTR's, I would agree that the BFG's outperform the Goodyears in the mud and soft dirt. Both seem to have similar highway manners and tread wear. You will have no problem getting 30k miles out of either tire. I never had any sidewall issues from either tire so I can't comment on durability differences in that respect. The MTR's seem to be a little quieter on the street although the better soundproofing in the 80 may have something to do with that.

If I had it to do over again I would get another set of the BFG's or some swampers of course .

 

[IdahoDoug]

Check out the new version of the Cooper Discoverer STT - just out and it's a mud available in these sizes. Serious rubber.

DougM

 

[Bryan E.]

Hey Jason, do you get the idea that many of us want you to get a "New to the market" tire so you can do a real Land Cruiser test on these tires for us? It's about time some new tires come out in this size.

 

[SR.GRINGO]

Bryan, Doug, and Kevin,

I like all of your recomendations exept one problem is that it would be very hard for me to replace a cooper, nitto, or toyo here in Mexico--I do plan on buying 5 tires so this may not be an issue. Will a nitto 35x12.50 fit on the stock Cruiser wheel? I was under the impression only a 315/75-16 would fit or smaller. Where is a cheap discount place to purchase coopers/toyos? The bfg MT is easy to get here if I should ruin more than one---I agree with you guys I would rather try something new--I just don't want to end up in a predicament.... I am planning on driving the 1000 miles to Phoenix in the next month or two so it would be feasible to go with one of the above brands....

On a side note Doug I always enjoy reading your posts--they are sort of a Land Cruiser version of Consumer reports. Now that you have two Cruisers are you planning on gearing the older one towards the trail?

 

[lowenbrau]

I'm also waiting for you 80 guys to test the Toyo MT. I think that might be a decent compromise tire for my SO BJ60. Unfortuantely, around here it seems to be the most expensive 315 available. I might consider the Procomp too I guess. Its less money.

Also, to muddy the waters some more, I've used a couple sets of Swamper SSRs and found them to work better than the MTRs untill the weak sidewalls let me down. Pretty smooth on the highway and I got a lot of miles out of them too.

 

[Bob_Garrett]

Check out the new version of the Cooper Discoverer STT - just out and it's a mud available in these sizes. Serious rubber.

DougM

Looks like a good tire and has some siping as well. But according to Cooper's web site the largest size in a 16" is a 285. There's a 35x12.50, but it's only available in an 18".

Bob

 

[stuck in GA]

I heard Nitto is the worst mud tire on road. I heard it gives off a bad noise and vibration.

 

[robbie]

I have not run a IROC yet, but a couple of guys that hang out once in a while love the tire, runing the 36 by 13.5 16. mounted on the truck it comes in a little over 35 inches. Look great on the truck, performance acording to these guys is awesome in mud as well as rock. forget sand. Any how jsut another option. Yes BFG MT is better in the mud than the MTR, but not as great on the rock. I have personall experence with 4 side wall tears and punctures on the MTR with seeing several BFG's loose side walls These tires are not as tough as a swamper but get more miles out of them for sure. I use my MTR as a daily driving tire and put on a Bias PLY tire for the hard stuff so I do not worry about loss of a side wall, way tougher tire. later robbie

 

[ginericLC]

I've seen a couple of guys with IROKs running around in Idaho. I swear you could watch the tires wear as you follow them down the interstate at 75 mph. I think they might be softer than other swampers.

The Toyo MT seems to be a decent tire. There are several Ford and Dodge Diesels running around with them in this neck of the woods. They seem to be getting good wear out of them. I think if I was in your situation this would be the tire I would try. Toyos are really popular on ranches where I used to live in Montana because they are really durable running gravel and shale roads at speed.

I would avoid the BFG AT and MT due to the sidewalls. Your type of terrain probably is more gooey with rocks and trees under the goop? That would scare me with a weak sidewall.

I'd think you could get 30k out of a Swamper TSL Radial. Not any more than that. But I think 30k is doable.

I'm interested in the Nitto Mud Grappler too. But they are hard to come by out here. We don't have any dealers in Idaho.

My experience with Coopers is that they are fairly soft. But who knows they could be better now.

 

[IdahoDoug]

Around here (N. Idaho), the Coopers are the favorite of the ranchers, loggers and Forest Service people specifically because they don't chip or lose chunks on sharp shale roads and such. Over a decade ago, they developed a rubber formulation that resists that type of damage.

Sr Gringo. I'd purchase a tire you can replace in your own area if you're going to run it hard. OTOH, getting 5 is a good strategy as you can rotate it in and have a spare. Be diligent about rotating it in as the 80 has a viscous coupling in the center that can be overheated by running different diameter tires for extended highway use.

Yes, I'll be moving the 93 more toward trail capability for the Search and Rescue work I volunteer for and also to restore my male testosterone from 2 years of driving a Subaru wagon. The Cooper Discoverer S/T's go on this afternoon with my 4yo son supervising. He's bouncing off the walls waiting for us to leave....

DougM

 

[Tools R Us]

Do you have Sam's Club there? They have Dunlop Radial Mud Rovers in LT315/75R16 for $145.43 each.

I heard Nitto is the worst mud tire on road. I heard it gives off a bad noise and vibration.

Are you talking about Yoko's, they are noisy and don't wear well, but look good and are reported to work well on the trail? The Nitto's are very new and are reported to be well behaved for an aggressive mud tire. I have been very impressed with the Nitto A/T's, well behaved on the road and have done great on Arizona trails, rock, sand and with the rain lately our local mud, mostly wet sand. I haven't had then in clay or gumbo mud. They only have about 10K miles on them and are holding up well. The rumor is that Nitto offroad tires are made by Toyo?

 

[ryanjl]

I saw a set of the new Toyo MT's at the Indy SEMA show. They looked kinda cool, and had sipes in the treads.

The thing that I noticed, however, was that the rubber compound seemed kinda soft, compared even to my MTR's. I'd bet their street-tread life isn't that great.

 

[Bryan E.]

I would strongly recommend getting a tire that you can find locally. That's one reason I've run BFG and now Goodyear because if I'm on a trip I can get one of those almost anywhere, and definetly the next day at most.