The ONSC "What I do for a Living" thread

[diggity]

Welcome...hmm must be nice to have a Cisco account team located on the east coast. Just got a new AM a few months back and I asked that he be based out of RTP, yep...got another one on the west coast. I wonder if I started spending the millions I am now on Force10 (yuck) or Foundry (umm,not) if that would change.

Now, back to another damn spreadsheet of Nexus gear...looks like I am one of the first inline to get the 2248T.

 

[DavidAW]

Wow, big Cisco presence here.
I'm a Cisco CCIE for a Gold Partner here in Virginia Beach. Routing/Switching, Telephony, Security, etc.

How bout that UC500

-Dave

 

[diggity]

Hi Dave, born and raised in the tidewater area (bayside). Brother still lives in the area and bought my cruiser in Yorktown.

I am a DC/Lan switching ex TAC guy, aside from QoS I do not mess on the telephony side of the house, however Joe here does. I support a large lab environment, mostly Nexus from top to bottom with a couple of 6500/7600, 4900 series thrown in for fun.

 

[krzyabncanuck]

OK, explain some of this to someone that has no clue what you are talking about here please.

 

[concretejungle]

yes sir it is me. Im ready to make some armor

be up soon. I'm putting my power steering pump back in this weekend and the 80 will be back on the road. I will come up then. Hold tight!!

 

[little_joe]

I am by no means a Cisco hater, but their enterprise voice stuff is getting worse by the day. Simple integration amongst their own products is broken, major releases with fundamental features that are broken, completely idiotic approaches to and requirements for upgrades are all incentive to start looking elsewhere. They're fortunate they have no real enterprise competition these days with Nortel in the crapper and Avaya as suck as always; but I expect some of the lesser players could really make inroads were business spending not still strangled. Asterisk has never looked so good.

</rant off, and these are my opinions, not those of my employer>

 

[addicted56]

I am by no means a Cisco hater, but their enterprise voice stuff is getting worse by the day. Simple integration amongst their own products is broken, major releases with fundamental features that are broken, completely idiotic approaches to and requirements for upgrades are all incentive to start looking elsewhere. They're fortunate they have no real enterprise competition these days with Nortel in the ****per and Avaya as suck as always; but I expect some of the lesser players could really make inroads were business spending not still strangled. Asterisk has never looked so good.

</rant off, and these are my opinions, not those of my employer>

My dad hates a lot of the companies you work with as well. Motosat anyone?

With all of you in the area, pretty smart on what you are doing, and obviously noticing a nitch in the market to actually make something that works, why don't you all start up a business on the side and if and when things look promising quit your jobs and go hardcore to make a new nitch in the market for some quality products. For the prices Cisco charges on things I would expect that it #1 works and works all the time and #2 can transport me back in time where my hairy chest would have scored me mad chicks and magazine covers in the 70's.

Joe himself says Cisco does not have any competition.

Just saying...someone out there has to make a quality product and seems like a good oportunity for all of you smarty pants.

 

[mtweller]

Seeing how Cisco pays my bills, I'll have to at least defend the company to some degree...


I work primarily in routing/switching supporting the largest customer Cisco has. They have tried some other vendors on some of their new rollouts and found quickly you get what you pay for. I will say that while Cisco is by no means perfect, I spend every minute of my day finding ways to better support our customer. Of course the customer I support pays huge money, and gets special software releases, direct development team support, etc.

End of the day, Cisco is not perfect, but I challenge anyone to find a alternate vendor that is better all the way around.

R

 

[addicted56]

Seeing how Cisco pays my bills, I'll have to at least defend the company to some degree...


I work primarily in routing/switching supporting the largest customer Cisco has. They have tried some other vendors on some of their new rollouts and found quickly you get what you pay for. I will say that while Cisco is by no means perfect, I spend every minute of my day finding ways to better support our customer. Of course the customer I support pays huge money, and gets special software releases, direct development team support, etc.

End of the day, Cisco is not perfect, but I challenge anyone to find a alternate vendor that is better all the way around.

R

Yes I do hear that Cisco is the best out there. But not everyone can afford "Special releases". I know you get what you pay for and not everyone can drive a ferarri but there needs to be something out there. But I don't know much about these things. I know how to get to Ih8mud and just figured out texting on my cell phone so I thought I was doing pretty good

 

[diggity]

Ramon, agreed 100%. What Joe is referring to though is that it is likely that a smaller/start-up would have something in areas (ip telephony)that works, and works well...and frankly, works well with a Cisco network

Joe - if you are not already, make your account team extremely aware of your frustration with the products you are dealing with. Also a paper bake-off never hurt anyone.

 

[diggity]

OK, explain some of this to someone that has no clue what you are talking about here please.

Darin - trust me you are better off not knowing , just technical nerd crap related to Cisco.

If you are really interested, I would like to switch places...literally with your setup right now (not kidding)

 

[swampthing]

Anyone getting the bright idea to develop a new Voip system, I can help you out!
Processors through plastic through PoE!

Enough of all this SW, need some good HW development!

 

[krzyabncanuck]

Darin - trust me you are better off not knowing , just technical nerd crap related to Cisco.

If you are really interested, I would like to switch places...literally with your setup right now (not kidding)

I know you mean well when you said you would like to be where i am but i would not wish this job on my worst enemy. I know there is a supervisor on here for the PO so i will not say anything on here, but if you want PM me and i will give you my # and you can talk to me about it. That goes for anyone on here. That is one reason i am going to school next year. Can not retire out of this job. Can not do it, no for me.

Now if you are talking about my garage and my retirement checks then no way i will not switch at all.

 

[DavidAW]

I am by no means a Cisco hater, but their enterprise voice stuff is getting worse by the day. Simple integration amongst their own products is broken, major releases with fundamental features that are broken, completely idiotic approaches to and requirements for upgrades are all incentive to start looking elsewhere. They're fortunate they have no real enterprise competition these days with Nortel in the crapper and Avaya as suck as always; but I expect some of the lesser players could really make inroads were business spending not still strangled. Asterisk has never looked so good.

</rant off, and these are my opinions, not those of my employer>

But at least licensing is easy, right?

 

[little_joe]

But at least licensing is easy, right?

On the voice side? Not any more! As our account team said, as Cisco hires more Avaya and Nortel people, their licensing process gets worse. FWIW I have not had Cisco deliver one single Call Mgr/Unity Conn/IPCC Express license suite correctly, and I've had to plead for them to give us temp licenses so we could go live until they unf**ked the licenses (we got valid licenses in late Sept for an install I did in early July). I had to postpone a major upgrade this weekend b/c of their upgrade licensing.

We are not a huge Cisco Customer simply by virtue of our size, but our network is Cisco end-to-end. I am not 100% privvy to everything in the routing and switching areas, but the voice side is pretty awful these days. Our account team hears about it all of the time: and when we make feature requests such as "all of your SIP-enabled voice products should honor RTCP", invariably we get a polite "No".

Developing a new VoIP platform isn't so easy, the landscape is littered with those who've tried, and are trying. And Jared it is all about the software, hardware is completely commoditized. Thankfully Asterisk and it's derivatives are gaining serious traction and support.

 

[DavidAW]

On the voice side? Not any more! As our account team said, as Cisco hires more Avaya and Nortel people, their licensing process gets worse. FWIW I have not had Cisco deliver one single Call Mgr/Unity Conn/IPCC Express license suite correctly, and I've had to plead for them to give us temp licenses so we could go live until they unf**ked the licenses (we got valid licenses in late Sept for an install I did in early July). I had to postpone a major upgrade this weekend b/c of their upgrade licensing.

We are not a huge Cisco Customer simply by virtue of our size, but our network is Cisco end-to-end. I am not 100% privvy to everything in the routing and switching areas, but the voice side is pretty awful these days. Our account team hears about it all of the time: and when we make feature requests such as "all of your SIP-enabled voice products should honor RTCP", invariably we get a polite "No".

Developing a new VoIP platform isn't so easy, the landscape is littered with those who've tried, and are trying. And Jared it is all about the software, hardware is completely commoditized. Thankfully Asterisk and it's derivatives are gaining serious traction and support.

Sorry Joe, I forgot the "tounge-in-cheek" icon after the licensing comment. I have spent many hours on this as well.

-Dave

 

[jsfgso]

Hello my name is Jake and I live in Winston,
I own a used car dealership in Greensboro. I deal primarily in luxury cars, mostly off lease. I am located in on church st in downtown in a warehouse.

 

[jfz80]

Hey whats your shop name? was just passing JSF the other day and I imagine thats you based on your screen name. Nice looking cars from what i could see going on inside.

Got a cruiser of you own? thats one i didnt see but someone was flagging me down as i pulled out heading the other way. I was leaving Bo's or Dr Bo's engine repair picking up some manifolds for my 55 in a built gray 80 last monday.

 

[jfz80]

Jake,
Did we run into you down at Uwharrie a couple months back. I was riding by myself in my truck and we had another member in his white 80. I just saw your post on the national forum about buying a one owner w/ 85k miles and was remembering the white 96 owner (cloth seats) we met down on the trails. If so, welcome!!! glad you found the club.

 

[uzj100]

Any experienced Peoplesoft (or Oracle) BSAs on here? Just heard of a lead and would like to pass it on.