Taalkeeta Mountain Scouting Trip. First time ever!

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Just got a report tonight of water running 3-5 feet deep in the Little Nelchina River where it's normally 2-3 feet deep.

But the snow melt is all gone now and there's no glacial feed for the Lil' Nel'. It drains a fairly small area so I expect that so long as this unseasonable rain does not continue this (and the other...larger... rivers out there should be back to normal by next week.

Hopefully.

This may get interesting. ;)


Mark...
 
So...

What gives? Stories. Pics. Carnage. Stucks. I see Whatley is posting today, but not a peep about this trip. Come awn. Feed me, Seymour.
 
Sorry guys, We're back but busy. ;)

Good trip. Without getting to deep into it, here's a few teasers.


220 miles from trailhead to trailhead. Less than we hoped, but time and fuel dictated no more. The gassers averaged 5mpg on the fast days and about 1.5 on the slower days. We used every drop that we brought along which we had hoped was enough for 400 miles.

We had a couple of days straight of slow speed cross country travel up on high alpine ridges and rocky meadows. Covered 25 miles in two full days of travel and burned a full tank of gas in the '40s.

We had a couple of fast 4 foot river crossing, but nothing daunting.

Things were pretty dry so the mud and bogs and marshy areas were not all that tough. Bruce had to take the strap a couple of times and break out the winch about 8 times or so. I found a couple of deep holes in couple of different grassy marshy spots and winched out rather than chewing things up to get moving. I don't recall Kevin ever getting stuck.

The '40s with the 40 inch boggers pretty much tractored our way through everything. The '74 had to use a little more momentum and power. Overall I can't say anything negative about the rig when you consider how suited it was for the long distance run from Calgary to join us.

We didn't make it to the area where we had hoped to. Some of my info turned out to be inaccurate. We did make it all the way to the Susitna River, but were unable to find any track to get very far west ward toward the Talkeetna. I know the route is there since I've seen it from the air. But we were unable to find it on the ground. Once we got back in there, there were many places where the trail we were on was difficult to keep track of. And cross country at the speeds and fuel consumption that is dictated for the kind of distance that would have been called for just wasn't an option this time around.

We had great weather that changed constantly. Only rained once though.

We caught grayling that practically jumped on the hook. We had a moose practically walk into camp, looking right at us the whole time. We had a caribou cow and calf walk right up to us while we were sitting on a 6000 foot peak watching about 300 of them on the next ridge over. We had a 360 degree view for miles and miles in every direction. All all day hike up and back.

Spent most of our time in country where virtually no one ever goes. Spent some of our time in places where *MAYBE* half a dozen people a year ever see.


One busted birfield. One loose wheel spacer (NOT mine). On shattered leaf spring (the whole pack). One very bruised leg. (NOT run over this time... and yes it was mine again). One dog/porcupine run in. :(

A few miscellaneous tuning type issues as we actually got going. Including significant amounts of water in the fuel cans that I dumped into my rig right before hitting the road. One clutch that gave up the ghost as we hit the road on the way out (actually started slipping on the trail, but we limped it all the way home. It was for the BJ74 and we had to get a disc custom made, but we have a place in town that can handle that. Got it all cheap too!

Bruce and Charla are on their way home tonight. Jim flew out this morning.

Much more to it than this stuff, but it will take time organize it all to tell. All in all GREAT trip.

More later. Maybe Jim, Bruce or Charla will have more to tell when they get home.


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Mark...
 
It was a great trip! We went further into the bush than most locals would believe, passing many "no one goes past there" landmarks. The result was a glimpse of remote wild Alaska that very few people experience. It was a trip back in time where the earth was ruled by large predators, moose, bear, caribou, wolves and Land Cruisers!

I'm still sorting out pictures and stories - there are many of both. Wheeling with the Alaskans and Canadians was a blast for this Californian. The distances are long and the views are vast. It's tough to capture on film or in words.

Meantime, here's a few pics to continue the tease.

We really hauled and burned a lot of gas....
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Talkeetna Mountains
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Square Lake
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IH8MUD ???

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The Black river
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Heading to Busch Creek
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View lots still available
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Bogs
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Brush
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Amazing!
 
Jim or Charla may have a complete track. I just turned mine on to set a few waypoints. Only fired the computer/GPS system up for a few minutes when we were searching for a specific spot up near the Su. But I can draw a track withing a few feet for most or our travels.

I'll try and put a map up somewhere with a route overlaid on it as soon as I can make the time (trying to get the Tech Exchange done right now and I've got rigs backed up at the shop).

Talked to Charla this evening. Her and Bruce were in Whitehorse. Everything going smoothly on their way home.


Mark...
 
I have the majority of our trek tracked on the GPS. I'll download it next time I'm at the office.

Bruce and I made it to Fort St. John about an hour ago. Camped in a pull out across from the Liard Hot Springs last night. Awoke in a panic to the roaring of a semi tractor trailer starting his motor beside us. Smooth trip home...

I had an awesome time. I haven't had a vacation in two years and this experience exceeded all expectations. Loved what I saw ;) Will post up more soon.
 
Here's a few more pictures as I take a bit of a break with this damn computer. :(


About as close as it gets to sundown.
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This little stone lined pond provided water for the hot showers.
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Looking up the Black River valley from atop the Goose Creek Moraine.
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Mark...
 
Here are six from the many I took...

1) Refreshing spot along the way in.
2) Mark, Jim & Kevin
3) A view of Denali not spotted out the tourbus window.
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4) Mmm... Grayling that Kevin caught.
5) The world's fanciest outhouse
6) "There're fish jumping on the road!"
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I have the majority of our trek tracked on the GPS. I'll download it next time I'm at the office.

Thanks. With the track I could make whatever pretty maps anyone might want. I'll also check what imagery I might have available. The pictures are absolutely amazing.

Cheers,
Chad
 
220 miles from trailhead to trailhead. Less than we hoped, but time and fuel dictated no more.
We had a couple of fast 4 foot river crossing, but nothing daunting.
Things were pretty dry so the mud and bogs and marshy areas were not all that tough.
We didn't make it to the area where we had hoped to.
We had great weather that changed constantly. Only rained once though.
Spent most of our time in country where virtually no one ever goes.

Boring. Sounds like a dud of a trip. Glad I wasn't there. I can't believe all the bandwidth you're wasting on these silly pictures. Call me when you have something interesting to say.

Peter "justifying his decision to stay home" Straub
 
Ya know Peter, I'm getting ready to start planning for the ACT 2008. Probably back out in the area where you went with us in 2002. Drive up Glacier 13 this time. Hopefully come out across the Gakona and reach Paxon instead of going back to Mentasta.

It'll be "hardcore sightseeing" and won't be expected to be particularly daunting. (But you know how easy it is to be surprised on this front.)

I *may* try to push the rest of the way to the Talkeetna River next year too. If I can't make the time for it, I WILL do it the summer after. If it gets pushed back to 2009 I WILL be taking Tiny. I'm acquiring a mechanically injected GM 6.2 with a Gale Banks turbo setup to mate with a 465/203/Orion.

Bring Tippy up and it'll take a heck of a marsh to stop us! ;)


Mark...
 
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Thanks. With the track I could make whatever pretty maps anyone might want. I'll also check what imagery I might have available. The pictures are absolutely amazing.

Cheers,
Chad

I'm gonna ask Charla to be careful about posting precise tracks of the more remote parts of our wanderings.

In general most of us up here are not real quick to post accurate info as to the locations of trailheads and important trail junctions or connections. We try to discourage people with less trail time on our "local" trails from heading out on their own without someone who knows the area. It's just too easy to get into trouble. AND most of these trails are not up to the abuse that uninformed but enthusiastic newbies can hand out. Even when they have the best intentions.

It's not like these are secrets, and there will always be people using (some of) the trails whether we tell them about them or not. But we prefer to make it hard enough that people have to work a little bit to get into these places. Make them "earn it" so to speak.
This approach is not just something that my buddies and I have settled into, but something that most of the guys who actually get out of town tend to do. We'll share, but we try to not put all the info out for anyone who happens to stumble across it. We have our share up here of less than knowledgeable "wheelers" who really shouldn't be out in the real back country by themselves. And our share of less than responsible "wheelers" that I'd just as soon not see on the trail at all. :(


Mark...
 
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I'm gonna ask Charla to be careful about posting precise tracks of the more remote parts of our wanderings.

Mark...

Makes sense. I was kind of assuming that as well. I was thinking more overview maps in general if anyone wanted them. I have a plotter so if you want some large scale paper maps I could produce those. Also if you wanted any maps for publication I could put something together to consider. I would like an accurate track for personal use to go over with imagery. I have no plans to venture up there unaided.:eek:

:beer: Chad
 
Makes sense. I was kind of assuming that as well. I was thinking more overview maps in general if anyone wanted them. I have a plotter so if you want some large scale paper maps I could produce those. Also if you wanted any maps for publication I could put something together to consider. I would like an accurate track for personal use to go over with imagery. I have no plans to venture up there unaided.:eek:

:beer: Chad


Do you have some sort of open access to SAT imagery sold by entities such as Digital Globe, etc? I've spent the last few years looking at whats avail, and what would have to be tasked to acquired, etc... The costs are generally off the chart for the area's and resolution we're after.. And the stuff on file is more likely than not to have way too much cloud cover..

Better than 30 Meter DEM's dont really exist above a certain latitude, nothing farther north than the Homer area afaik... They're working on it, but AK is pretty far behind...
 

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