Sudden Diesel Death Syndrome Revisited

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I've been keeping a log of the strange behavior of my 1HDT. I know it's a lot to read, but if any of you have the patience for it, I would appreciate any new insights.

First Incident: Drove the truck approximately three miles to Fred Meyer. Shopped for about 45 minutes. Started truck, drove for one block to the stop light. As soon as I tried accelerating from the stop light, the engine died. No amount of cranking would restart it. After five minutes of sitting, it fired right up, and I drove off without further incident.

Second Incident: Drove the truck approximately two miles to the bank. Was in bank for approximately 20 minutes. Started up and began to drive off. Engine died immediately after leaving the parking lot and approaching a stop sign. Cranked and cranked but would not start. Waited five minutes, and it fired right up. Drove off without further incident.

Third Incident: Drove approximately 45 minutes on freeway (as with all previous incidents, this was the first drive of the day). Arrived at destination, and vehicle was shut off for approximately one hour. Started up and drove ten blocks and engine died. After a five minute “rest,” the engine fired right up, and I drove another 45 minutes to home without hiccup.

Fourth Incident: First start of the day; drove three hours to Redmond. Vehicle sat at destination for approximately three hours. Started and drove three blocks, and engine died while approaching a stop sign. After five minute “rest,” the engine fired right up, and I drove three hours back home to Portland without any issues.

Fifth Incident: First drive of the day; engine would not start right out of the garage. Waited five minutes, and it fired right up. Drove various trips that day without further issues.

Sixth Incident: First drive of the day; engine would not start right out of the garage. Waited five minutes, and it started instantly. Drove several short trips that day without further incident.

It has since repeated this behavior on several occasions. It doesn’t always do this – it’s probably about two to three drives out of five. It usually happens after the truck has been driven some distance and then been shut off for a while. In every case, after cranking and giving up, it will fire up instantly after a five minute wait and drive the remainder of the day without incident.
 
Could be the fuel solenoid.
When you first start up in the morning listen for a clicking from the solenoid , and then listen when you are trying to start after the engine is hot.
 
Compression ignition engines need fuel. The fuel cut may be the problem but delivery to pump is the issue. Check your primer and make sure it is hard. Start engine and using a 17mm wrench crack each line at injector and bleed air etc. if the problem persists, look for fuel line leaks etc.
what size are fuel hard lines? Starvation issues in 80 series made an update from the 10mm stock to 11 mm (1hz) to 12mm (turbo) lines. Maybe an inline pump is in your future.
 
Compression ignition engines need fuel. The fuel cut may be the problem but delivery to pump is the issue. Check your primer and make sure it is hard. Start engine and using a 17mm wrench crack each line at injector and bleed air etc. if the problem persists, look for fuel line leaks etc.
what size are fuel hard lines? Starvation issues in 80 series made an update from the 10mm stock to 11 mm (1hz) to 12mm (turbo) lines. Maybe an inline pump is in your future.
Thanks much for the info. I will follow-up.
 
Another tip!
Try running a hot + jumper from your battery to the top of your solenoid, tap and listen for the clicking. Then decide if it is the solenoid or possible weak wiring connection when the engine is hot.
My HD-FT does this occasionally when I run her hard. I will swap the solenoid out, but this one is not easy compared to my HZJ75 or hdj81.
 
Another tip!
Try running a hot + jumper from your battery to the top of your solenoid, tap and listen for the clicking. Then decide if it is the solenoid or possible weak wiring connection when the engine is hot.
My HD-FT does this occasionally when I run her hard. I will swap the solenoid out, but this one is not easy compared to my HZJ75 or hdj81.
Thank you, sir.
 
Ha!
Poured some water on mine yesterday to cool the solenoid off and she fired right up.
Once I have some time, I'll pull the oil filter and put in a new solenoid.
 
It's a theory!
Worked the first time I tried it, but that could be coincidence.
 
i had hot start issues with mine. solenoid was fine but the old wires through the ign developed enough resistance that it wouldn’t open the solenoid when hot. ran a wire from battery to solenoid via a relay controlled by ign and it’s run perfectly since.

these can be crazy frustrating as it’s an intermittent problem but it’s really a simple fix with a relay
 
I've been keeping a log of the strange behavior of my 1HDT. I know it's a lot to read, but if any of you have the patience for it, I would appreciate any new insights.

First Incident: Drove the truck approximately three miles to Fred Meyer. Shopped for about 45 minutes. Started truck, drove for one block to the stop light. As soon as I tried accelerating from the stop light, the engine died. No amount of cranking would restart it. After five minutes of sitting, it fired right up, and I drove off without further incident.

Second Incident: Drove the truck approximately two miles to the bank. Was in bank for approximately 20 minutes. Started up and began to drive off. Engine died immediately after leaving the parking lot and approaching a stop sign. Cranked and cranked but would not start. Waited five minutes, and it fired right up. Drove off without further incident.

Third Incident: Drove approximately 45 minutes on freeway (as with all previous incidents, this was the first drive of the day). Arrived at destination, and vehicle was shut off for approximately one hour. Started up and drove ten blocks and engine died. After a five minute “rest,” the engine fired right up, and I drove another 45 minutes to home without hiccup.

Fourth Incident: First start of the day; drove three hours to Redmond. Vehicle sat at destination for approximately three hours. Started and drove three blocks, and engine died while approaching a stop sign. After five minute “rest,” the engine fired right up, and I drove three hours back home to Portland without any issues.

Fifth Incident: First drive of the day; engine would not start right out of the garage. Waited five minutes, and it fired right up. Drove various trips that day without further issues.

Sixth Incident: First drive of the day; engine would not start right out of the garage. Waited five minutes, and it started instantly. Drove several short trips that day without further incident.

It has since repeated this behavior on several occasions. It doesn’t always do this – it’s probably about two to three drives out of five. It usually happens after the truck has been driven some distance and then been shut off for a while. In every case, after cranking and giving up, it will fire up instantly after a five minute wait and drive the remainder of the day without incident.
Turned out to be the fuel solenoid. Replaced that, and the problems have disappeared.
 
Looks like I'll need to pull the pump on my HD-FT in order to change the solenoid.
That thing is in there incredibly tight.
Nowhere as easy as a HZ or an hd-t.
I did run a nice thick wire from a hot ignition source to the solenoid just in case, but again if I run her hot she occasionally won't restart.
Once again a dousing of the solenoid with water saved the day.
This never happens in winter!
 

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