speedie sleeve or used spindle?

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Leaking at the axle ends or at the pinion? If it's the pinion, make sure you use a Toyota seal, the aftermarket ones are not very good. If your pinion flange has a groove worn in it by the seal you can get new ones from marlin Crawler or Toyota. Also make sure your breather is clear. If it's clogged the pressure can build up in the axle and force oil out...

If it's the axle ends, make sure that the bearings are nice and tight. If they are worn out then no seal is going to have a chance...

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Pinion flange? Is that the same as the spindle? We called a Toyota Dealer they want $1,100.00. Said we must buy everything connected with the Spindle. I found a Junk Yard not far from me he wants $100.00 for the used spindle. Unfortunately my mechanic did not speck the worn spindle for a speedie sleeve. It makes no sense to me to put the wheel, measure it then put it back together. I might as well buy the used spindle and just put it on. Heres a link to the spindle. Thanks!

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Thanks for the information. I just ordered a used one from a yard nearby. I'm paying $100.00 for it but this guy has the largest collection of Toyota Trucks in his yard in the state he tells me and he came through on another part I needed a few years ago. I don't really mind paying him and if its not the right one or worn I know he will replace it. But I appreciate your input. BTW what is a front SA spindle?
 
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Well guys I turns out I still need your help. The spindle that was pulled is not the right on. He says its very long, not like the picture he has seen. I can't believe in this big country there are no spindles to fit my 89 duel wheel Toyota. I know there is one guy selling them with no warrentee. No thank you! There must be one out there somewhere. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
 
I had a leaking rear hub on my full floating axle- there is one seal in the hub that seals the axle, and a larger one on the outside of the hub that fits into a seal that bolts to the brake housing.

Both of mine were shot, but I only needed one to keep grease in. The inner surface on the spindle I replaced with a speedy sleeve. Worked perfect.

The old sleeve is on the left, the new one on the axle. I don't recall the measurments.

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AFAIK, I don't think you can easily replace a spindle on a mini truck rear full floater. Like the older Land Cruiser ones, they only came welded on. The hubs and spindles are not interchangeable front to rear, but a Land Cruiser (pre 80 series) rear spindle should work.
 
toy4xfun said:
man that is a nasty rusty pic.
get a hold of cruiserdan, i will say i have never had any luck with any thing that has speedy in front of seal!
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Manafre Aussie special. ;)

I wonder how much Toyota wants for a brand new full floating Hilux axle housing...

The speedy sleeve was $48 in 2005, and worked perfectly even on that ol, nasty looking axle.
 
Would you believe the local Toyota Dealer will not sell me just the spindle. If I want it I have to buy the entire assembly. As far as I know the hub,brakes, housing, spindle. $1100.00! Screw them! I had a bright idea last night. I remembered seeing a lot of Campers on Toyota long beds with dualies. I joined the Toyota RV site on yahoo and explained my problem. I have already gotten about 12 very helpful emails from nice people plus Junk Yards that have parts for the dualies. I may have found a spindle. Next week my mechanic will pull the wheel again. I will take pictures of exactly what I need and we will measure it for a speedie sleeve then decide what how we will fix it. Thanks for all the help guys. I will let you know how it turns out.
 
thesculptor said:
Would you believe the local Toyota Dealer will not sell me just the spindle. If I want it I have to buy the entire assembly. As far as I know the hub,brakes, housing, spindle. $1100.00! Screw them! I had a bright idea last night. I remembered seeing a lot of Campers on Toyota long beds with dualies. I joined the Toyota RV site on yahoo and explained my problem. I have already gotten about 12 very helpful emails from nice people plus Junk Yards that have parts for the dualies. I may have found a spindle. Next week my mechanic will pull the wheel again. I will take pictures of exactly what I need and we will measure it for a speedie sleeve then decide what how we will fix it. Thanks for all the help guys. I will let you know how it turns out.
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Toyota won't sell you a rear axle spindle because the spindle itself is part of the axle housing- it is not removable like the front axle. You would have to buy the whole axle.

This is a Land Cruiser axle, but it's very much like yours- the rear axle spindle is welded to the axle housing- non-removable- and next to it is a front axle spindle, which bolts to the front axle. They are not the same- the front axle spindle is shorter than the rear spindle.

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Here's what you're looking at- it's a Dana axle, but the same applies to your axle.
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It seems on your truck where the seal rides the surface is worn out, which is what happened to me. The seal in the back of your hub no longer makes good contact on the surface, the seal surface eats the seal, and the seal leaks.

(The old seal surface is just sitting there on the left side of the photo as a reference.)

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I don't remember the size of the speedy sleeve, but I got it at Napa. It wider than the original seal surface, so once it was installed I cut it down with some tin snips and filed it. It worked great.

And sure, the axle was rusty and pitted- that meant that the axle just held more grease. ;-) The speedy sleeve was very snug against the axle, with no play.

The speedy seal cannot be more than $60. A whole new axle, even from a junkyard is going to cost a whole lot more, and who is to say that the seal surface won't be worn out? Unless something else is buggered, I'd replace the rear bearings and seals (since it's all torn apart), get a speedy sleeve, reassemble, check your brakes and drive away.
 
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My mechanic wants me to ask has anyone actually used a speedy sleeve on a dual wheel 1989 Toyota like mine and what size sleeve did they use. I would have thought it all depended on the amount of wear on the shaft, But if all the spindles are the same should one size fit all?
 
I don't recall the size, but why can't he just measure it?

Either my axle already had a speedy sleeve installed on it (which would have meant there were gouges in the seal surface- there weren't) or Toyota installed them from the factory.

I'm not sure, but I believe a speedy sleeve for the front axle will work in the same location on the rear axle.

thesculptor said:
My mechanic wants me to ask has anyone actually used a speedy sleeve on a dual wheel 1989 Toyota like mine and what size sleeve did they use. I would have thought it all depended on the amount of wear on the shaft, But if all the spindles are the same should one size fit all?
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