sliders 2"x3"--orientation? (1 Viewer)

[SR.GRINGO]

Why do some the sliders you see have the 3" side towards the ground while others like Hanas have the 2" side towards the ground?

I am going to use 2"x3" bars along with tube--not sure on tube size somewhere from 1.5" up to 2"

Also planning on putting 1/4" gap between the slider and body to allow for flexing.....

Anything else I should worry about?

 

[concretejungle]

Good idea about the 1/4" gap! Are you building these yourself using George's Design?

If so, i just finished a set so i have a few pointers.

 

[SR.GRINGO]

Good idea about the 1/4" gap! Are you building these yourself using George's Design?

If so, i just finished a set so i have a few pointers.

Would love to hear your pointers---I have accumulated a ton of pics and research and am going forward from there.... I actually have not checked out Georges design.

I was also going to use 1/4 inch for the 2"x3" but the price is about triple compared to 3/16" which I believe will be stout enough.....

 

[alia176]

1/4" is just too heavy and unwarranted. 1/8" is fine for us but 3/16" is the max IMHO. Leave more than 1/4" gap. Keep in mind that one pound of extra weight is something like 10 hp power loss or was it the other way around? Damn, memory sucks....

 

[SR.GRINGO]

1/4" is just too heavy and unwarranted. 1/8" is fine for us but 3/16" is the max IMHO. Leave more than 1/4" gap. Keep in mind that one pound of extra weight is something like 10 hp power loss or was it the other way around? Damn, memory sucks....

Ali,

I think we are screwed on horsepower any way you look at it Anyhow I went ahead and bought 2"x4" 3/16 along with 2" schedule 40 on the tube--everything should turn out pretty stout--I printed a picture of your Cruiser when you had the sliders painted white. Whats happening with your memory When I get them produced I will post up a pic......

Jason

Alex,

Thanks for instructions-- I really appreciate it. I'm sure I will come up with some questions

Jason

 

[AMMO]

Turn the 2x3 up on edge, 2" side down or up the 3" on the sides... Thus less contact area, more SLIDE hense... S L I D E R.... unless you want more DRAG.

-Ammo

 

[Rookie2]

Ali,

Anyhow I went ahead and bought 2"x4" 3/16 along with 2" schedule 40 on the tube--everything should turn out pretty stout--

I assume you're aware 2" schedule 40 has an OD of 2 3/8". No biggy if you're putting the 4" side vertical, but probably some extra grinding needed if you're butting into the 2" side. I think slee's use 1 1/2".


Rookie2

 

[Gumby]

I'm thinking pretty seriously about rebuilding mine. I took them off to put new bars on and I really like the increased performance with them off. Much harder to get in and out of now, but handles better.

Slider version 1.0 had 1/4" 2x4, 2" tubes, pinch plates at the frame, and a monster cat protector. It feels like I got Junk's Momma hanging from under my truck. On each side.

V2.0 will take stuff from Bryan, John and Ali's and be .06-.125 wall 2x4 and 1.5 tubes with an AllPro bend at the back and much further out from the body than my current ones. I will keep the pinch plates but make a curved tube support under the remaining cat bolted to the captured nuts on the frame. I will cap the ends for strength and to keep mud out, and for buoyancy during snorkel tests.

The question is what to do with the old ones. Sell them for money for new steel, or use the steel for my buggy project?

 

[alia176]

Rookie has a good point. On a 2x4 rect tubing turned sideways, a 1.5" OD tubing will butt up nicely (angular fashion). What I mean is if you have a sight angle (hor and ver) on the nerf bars then your contact pattern will spread. Not sure if I'm making any sense.

Gumby, I bet your truck drives like a dragster now. What do you think the weight of the sliders/nerf bars were? I approx 100# total. Let me know if you're gonna have yours powdercoated at a shop and I'll bring in my hardware. Maybe this way the setup cost will be less for both of us.

Ali

 

[Montana Cruiser]

I'm thinking pretty seriously about rebuilding mine. I took them off to put new bars on and I really like the increased performance with them off. Much harder to get in and out of now, but handles better.

Slider version 1.0 had 1/4" 2x4, 2" tubes, pinch plates at the frame, and a monster cat protector. It feels like I got Junk's Momma hanging from under my truck. On each side.

V2.0 will take stuff from Bryan, John and Ali's and be .06-.125 wall 2x4 and 1.5 tubes with an AllPro bend at the back and much further out from the body than my current ones. I will keep the pinch plates but make a curved tube support under the remaining cat bolted to the captured nuts on the frame. I will cap the ends for strength and to keep mud out, and for buoyancy during snorkel tests.

The question is what to do with the old ones. Sell them for money for new steel, or use the steel for my buggy project?

How much do a good set of sliders weigh? I wouldnt have thought they weighed enough to have a noticable "seat of the pants" effect on performance ..... guess I was wrong?

 

[concretejungle]

How much do a good set of sliders weigh? I wouldnt have thought they weighed enough to have a noticable "seat of the pants" effect on performance ..... guess I was wrong?

I am guessing mine weighed about 40 to 50 lbs a piece. I didn't notice a performance difference when i mounted mine.

 

[Gumby]

Gumby, I bet your truck drives like a dragster now. What do you think the weight of the sliders/nerf bars were? I approx 100# total. Let me know if you're gonna have yours powdercoated at a shop and I'll bring in my hardware. Maybe this way the setup cost will be less for both of us.

Ali

I'm out whupping on Civics now.

I would guess at least 50# on the right one. A good 10-15# more on the left.

I'm thinking it would cost less to build a new big oven than to pay someone to coat them.

 

[Rookie2]

I'm out whupping on Civics now.

I would guess at least 50# on the right one. A good 10-15# more on the left.

The 2x4 x 1/4" alone is 52 lbs. If you've got Georges brackets plus the 1.5 diameter tubing, I'd say you upwards of 90 to 100 lbs each.

That 2x4 your using seems to be about the only place tp trim it down. If you could reduce that to 2x3 1/8", you'd reduce the weight each side by 34 lbs.


Rookie2

 

[SR.GRINGO]

OK---I was wrong on the tube diameter--the outside is 2". What do you guys think about mud flaps--should I order some to close up the hole in the fender flare?


As far as weight goes I don't mind a little extra--at some point somebody is going to end up on my front grill--people run lights on every signal change---Yesterday I almost t-boned a School Bus..... I have the 100 series pads and I still barely stopped--I was hoping to run 35's but this may bring me down to low--my set up is 850/863 spring combo with two OME top-out spacers on each spring with the N73/N74E shock and the rest of the heavy lift.....

 

[Klunky Chris]

how bout this setup?

1" x 3" I think.... or was it 1" x 4".... yea... I think thats it!
too damn cold out to go measure anyway....