Slee 5" with no m12000/ARb ok for a year?

[SR.GRINGO]

Well I have been doing much more reading today than working..... I think I am going to go with the 5" lift setup(N73L/N74L 1.5" spacer, control arms, etc) weld in version from Slee but I will not be able to afford the winch or bumper for a good year--Is this going to be a problem? I will probably add the 35" tires in a few months....

I would also consider the 6" weld in version....

 

[mabrodis]

Why would it be a problem? Adding a different bumper and winch will just make the suspension sit down a bit, so you'll start off plenty high and then settle down as you add stuff to the vehicle.

The only 'problem' I can think of is with no extra weight therefore the added height the castor might be a bit worse than normal, since that gets worse with more lift, but I wouldn't worry about it. I would guess you'll have a 'problem' when you add a bumper and winch and then it sits to low, since you'll get useto it being so high..

 

[ginericLC]

Your only issue with adding a lift without the weight is caster and ride. If you are adding the adjustable control arms etc.... you can adjust your caster so it is correct pre winch and bumper and post winch and bumper. Ride is a subjective thing. You may like it before and not after, who knows what you like? You might not know what you like either? Seriously, if you haven't driven it and it is all you know how do you know if there are better solutions or not?

 

[Tooth Fairy]

If you are adding the adjustable control arms etc.... you can adjust your caster so it is correct...

I don't think Slee's front control arms are adjustable.

They should be, so, how 'bout it guys?

 

[ginericLC]

I don't think Slee's front control arms are adjustable.

They should be, so, how 'bout it guys?

Duhh! I confused the control arms with the pan hard rods and maybe trailing arms. The front control arms I saw that were adjustable were made by Trent for Borg's 80.

 

[Junk]

Duhh! I confused the control arms with the pan hard rods and maybe trailing arms. The front control arms I saw that were adjustable were made by Trent for Borg's 80.

that's ok eric, we don't really pay attention to anything you say anyway

 

[ginericLC]

that's ok eric, we don't really pay attention to anything you say anyway

Yeah! I can't expect much support from folks who think I"m MR. BLING!

 

[wb1948]

I will probably add the 35" tires in a few months....

Just out of curiosity, are you running stock tires right now? 5 or 6 inches of lift, imo, would look wierd with 33s, and really wierd with stock tires.

 

[nyk438]

Yeah! I can't expect much support from folks who think I"m MR. BLING!

Care to elaborate on why you are considered "Mr. Bling"..


I'm hoping your not one of those wannabe rapper guys and your runnin 22's on your 80

 

[sleeoffroad]

I don't think Slee's front control arms are adjustable.

They should be, so, how 'bout it guys?

Have not figured that one out yet. The two link setup as in stock does not make it easy to make adjustable arms. If you three linked the front, then it becomes a piece of cake to have adjustable caster.

 

[sleeoffroad]

Might as well spill the beans here. We are working on a 4" lift that will only have springs, not springs and spacers. We are no longer going to offer the 5" kit. Just does not make sense in view of the 6" lift that we already have.

Stiffer spring rate than OME 850/863 and it should sit level (maybe 1" rake). It will share a lot of components from our 6" lift, but it will have caster plates and not the arms. The spring rate will be choses for heavy loads, just like the 6" is currently.

The caster plates are in production, but they will work for 4". Some welding, cutting and grinding is involved with fitting it.

Should be available in Dec. Caster plates should be available before that.

 

[landtank]

This is exactly what I've been waiting for. Don't have the cash ruight now but since it won'y be available until dec. 2005 I have plenty of time.

 

[corbs]

I've got Slee's 6" w/his control arms too and no bumpers and the ride has been ok, hell of a lot better than the saggy a$$ stock suspension. I have been carrying a couple of bags of gravel around to help simulate some bumper weight (two 50 or 60lb bags).

 

[SR.GRINGO]

After much reading and thinking I decided to be more conservative and see what I can get through with 33's and the 2.5" OME heavy N73/N74E and 850/863 springs. I also want to add wheel spacers to improve the stability.

I used to have a 00 4Runner with 285's, 3" OME/Saw lfit, and a 1" rodger brown body lift--It was nice and big but it got hairy a couple times going over ledges--

Christo any thoughts on price of the 4" yet? This guy above has a neat picture of a 4Runner/Land Cruiser--cruiser looks stout....

 

[NorCalDoug]

After much reading and thinking I decided to be more conservative and see what I can get through with 33's and the 2.5" OME heavy N73/N74E and 850/863 springs. I also want to add wheel spacers to improve the stability...

IMHO, you can get through a whole hell of alot with 33"s and 2.5 OMEs...but you'll probably want more later.

I know I do.

I'm now saving my pennies for the 6" kit from Christo.

This is not to dissuade you from going more conservative. It's not a bad idea and probably will be sufficient for your needs.

 

[dclee]

Yeah, thought about the 6" lift, but I decided to stay at 5" since I don't want to get the truck too high up there (have had some tippy situations in the past) and more importantly, then I'd have to take off the roof rack everytime I wanted to park it in the garage!

 

[SR.GRINGO]

Yeah, thought about the 6" lift, but I decided to stay at 5" since I don't want to get the truck too high up there (have had some tippy situations in the past) and more importantly, then I'd have to take off the roof rack everytime I wanted to park it in the garage!

What size tires are you running? How high are you overall? I think I have 88 inches to work with...... The comment from NorcalDoug certainly didn't help my decision making process

 

[NorCalDoug]

Sorry 'bout that. Didn't mean to do that.
I was quite pleased with the OME 2.5 that I had and the 33s that I was running. Had no problems with them at all. I was able to make it through all the trails we attempted without problems.

Then...the guys I run trails with (Derek being one of them) started upgrading...going to 35s, J springs, etc. -- some going up to 6" lifts. Then I noticed that they were not scraping as much as I was -- making it over obstacles a little easier. It made me feel like I was rolling in a low-rider sometimes

So, not necessarily to "keep up with the Jones", but in the spirit of making improvements, I'm working on getting just a little more lift. 3.5" is just a little more, right

Another thing to consider is with 33s, there's really no need to regear for tougher trails -- I'll need to swapout the 4.10 to 4.88 before going on anything really tough.

BTW, Derek is running 315/75 R16 MTRs.

 

[concretejungle]

What size tires are you running? How high are you overall? I think I have 88 inches to work with...... The comment from NorcalDoug certainly didn't help my decision making process

but he is right. Especially if your rig is locked. A good set of mud tires, the 2.5 lift will get you in and out of a lot of places. It would be good practice and a way to size things up and decide if you want to go that high.

 

[dclee]

I think I have 88 inches to work with......

C'mon, aren't we exaggerating just a bit? ...Oh, sorry, wrong conversation...

We have an eight foot garage door opening (96") and a make it through with an inch or two to spare. Roof rack is a Kaymar/Tradesman oval tube full-length, which is not exactly a high profile rack (probably lower than an ARB). It's probably about 5-6" above the center of the roof.

HTH,