SFA 100 series - How many?

[redman333]

Does slee offer a kit so say my shop of choice can give me a quote or maybe even try my own hand at something like this. I wouldn't say it's out of my skill level but I've never done one before so it could be harder than I imagine but you never know until you try right.


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[Trunk Monkey]

No kit. Read his build threads on the truck's he's done.

 

[redman333]

No kit. Read his build threads on the truck's he's done.

Are they here. I didn't realize he had build threads.


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[40Habits]

Here is a kit you can piece together.

Axle Housing $685
105 Hub $400
Rotors $200
Calipers $735
Front Diff $1,749
Lift Kit $3,780
Brackets $400
Odds and Ends $2,000 Could be more!! (e.g.: Knuckle Balls, Custom Axle Shafts, Consumables)
Steering $1,100
Gears $750
37" Tires $2,000

With a little Blood, Sweat and Gears you can have yourself a SAS 100.

 

[LX5708]

Are they here. I didn't realize he had build threads.


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[hoser]

Wow that's a bit much. It may very well be worth it but the last guy that said $10k, I was thinking ok that's do'able. $25k though maybe if I found a 100 with really high mileage for dirt cheap. It might be worth but I don't really want to have $45k just in the vehicle and axle swap.

You would definitely be $10k+ in just parts, if going new, as Slee would. To save $$$, you'd go with something like a Dana 60 junkyard axle, probably narrowed.

 

[cybrstar]

Cheapest way would be to look for either a wrecked/parts fj80 and transfer all the components to the 100. You will have everything including gearbox, steering components, brake components, front and rear complete axles (hub to hub) (if you got the factory e-lockers better), grind off and reweld necessary tabs or buy new or fabricate newer type of 3 link for the front as for the fj80 front end really does not articulate that well anyways (limited to 10inches of flex due to the way the lower control arms are designed)

Hopefully $2000~ for parts/wrecked fj80 and go from there.
Maybe $3000~ in extra parts, tires, Mis. brackets and rods for custom 3 link, OME front springs, front shocks, and maybe even high steer.
That makes it hopefully around $5k but realistically $8k. Rest of it will be your skill and time=priceless.

15-25k really has me going.
No offense to the customers that paid for it. I wished I could do the same.

I read that article and are hopeful that it may light a fire under the 100 owners and am hopefully that more and more 100's will have a solid axle under it. It's got me thinking of doing it

 

[cybrstar]

Here is a link for a kit that fits Tacoma, 4Runner, mini's. They place the track bar on the outter end of the frame instead of the inside (where the 80 is so no pulling the motor out and welding in a bracket). Only thing you have to worry about is if the track bar will make contact with the engine or exhaust pipes.

Toyota 3 Link Kit

I hope some company will create a kit like this with all the angles and brackets pre made. And YES I would pay $3k for the complete kit.

But I did find on there site that they build one for an fj80. Maybe this will work on our 100???

FJ80 Front Suspension

I think I found my winter project.

 

[redman333]

Here is a link for a kit that fits Tacoma, 4Runner, mini's. They place the track bar on the outter end of the frame instead of the inside (where the 80 is so no pulling the motor out and welding in a bracket). Only thing you have to worry about is if the track bar will make contact with the engine or exhaust pipes.

Toyota 3 Link Kit

I hope some company will create a kit like this with all the angles and brackets pre made. And YES I would pay $3k for the complete kit.

But I did find on there site that they build one for an fj80. Maybe this will work on our 100???

FJ80 Front Suspension

I think I found my winter project.

This is along the lines of what I'm thinking. Modify a current SAS swap kit for similar Toyotas and maybe use what was said above some of the 80s parts either bought used or as a donor vehicle. I would say with some time and patience and a bit of skill this could be done in the $10k range. Obviously you can go higher if you choose to.


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[SHREDwagon]

Eyed a few of these conversions available from Japan (15 year import restriction in Canada) with the HD-FTE, but RHD. Few pics below. Seemed like a common conversion using factory SERVICEABLE parts for owners who actually wheeled their 100's. Maybe easier with the FTE, dunno. Price was around 30k CAD with everything (6" suspension, 35's, exhaust, etc, etc). The grey one had 140,000 kms!


At the time I thought: that's why I have an 81 Series, and, when will I bash rocks with a 100 like that? Carbon fiber hood and all. I mean, c'mon who has that money? When a built 81 is half that?

 

[cybrstar]

Does anyone know how different the 100 frame is compared to the 80? If they are the same in dimensions the SAS front link kit that this company provides should be a direct swap for ours. Pan hard bar is straight compared to Slee's blueberry build (curved). The panhard is the only concern that i have hitting the oilpan.

Also Slee did mention that he had to build a custom panhard bracket on his Blueberry. Maybe I should give him a call and see if he is willing to just sell that bracket and panhard bar since he had the measurements already done for the 100.

 

[sleeoffroad]

We do not sell any of the parts. The price might seem unreasonable to some but as a commercial shop there are a lot of other factors that come into play if this is done for a customer.

It can probably be done cheaper as a DIY project. The other truck in this thread is in South Dakota I believe. I am aware of it, but don't know the details.

 

[duggy]

We do not sell any of the parts. The price might seem unreasonable to some but as a commercial shop there are a lot of other factors that come into play if this is done for a customer.

It can probably be done cheaper as a DIY project. The other truck in this thread is in South Dakota I believe. I am aware of it, but don't know the details.

When will the stars align for Slee to build a DIY kit for the 100 series masses?

 

[LX5708]

When will the stars align for Slee to build a DIY kit for the 100 series masses?

I would personally like to see them be able to figure out a way to keep the AHC with the SAS conversion..

 

[duggy]

Why?

 

[redman333]

Why?

Why not?


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[redman333]

We do not sell any of the parts. The price might seem unreasonable to some but as a commercial shop there are a lot of other factors that come into play if this is done for a customer.

It can probably be done cheaper as a DIY project. The other truck in this thread is in South Dakota I believe. I am aware of it, but don't know the details.

Is there any possibility for a diy kit or just a kit in general to be sold by you guys?


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[LX5708]

Why?

Because I love my system... In stead of the 35's and 6 inch lift, which they would do... Go with 33's and the adjustable system... Keep it some what as a DD... I could never see myself on 35's with a DD. To impractical. Plus it would not fit in my garage.

 

[duggy]

You may as well keep the IFS if you want adjustable suspension and 33s. The reason most folks want to go with a SAS/SFA swap is to fit larger tires, increase reliability of the front end components and increase suspension flex/articulation, none of which the AHC/IFS system does well.

If you go with the solid axle swap, you will ditch the front end components which include the torsion bars and also the hydraulic shocks. I wouldn't imagine that it is feasible, cost effective or make complete sense to keep the AHC system while swapping the front steering and drive components.

 

[cybrstar]

Is there any possibility for a diy kit or just a kit in general to be sold by you guys?


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There is already a dIY kit and I just mentioned it above. Comes with all the bracketry shocks and linkage. All you need to do is the steering components, axle, brakes, and driveshaft. What comes to play in the kit is that it is for the 80, BUT from what I am researching is that the frames are very similar. So this kit can be used, I think.
What may be difficult is maybe the pan hard bar. A custome one may have to be shaped so that it doesn't come into contact with the motor.

I would personally like to see them be able to figure out a way to keep the AHC with the SAS conversation.

Are you serious. Let's keep on subject about sas. If you want hydrolics go buy an 64 Impala.