Alright. Here we go. Going to be collecting parts for the next month or so. We have a bathroom remodel to finish as well. Hoping to lift the 3FE out the beginning of July.
Let me know if you want a second set of hands for any of the heavy stuff.
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Let me know if you want a second set of hands for any of the heavy stuff.
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Another crate arrived. Rebuilt 6L80E from Zero Gravity Performance with the Axis Industries Adapter. Transfer case adapter is ordered then, I should have everything to attach the drivetrain to the truck. Slow going collecting parts, but I'll get there.
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Speak of the devil and he shall appear. Came to the doorstep today. Quickly running out of excuses to leave the 3FE in the truck.
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Any progress on the swap yet? How are you planning on controlling and shifting the 6L80e? Asking for a friend.
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All right. Here we go. The tear down has begun. I hope to have the fenders off and most of the engine / transmission disconnected by the weekend.
Stoked to see this swap and even more stoked when I noticed who this is! I come from the BMW crowd as well and followed Mr. Belvedere's build on SW since the begining! Also still run Rennstall knobs on all of my cars! You do incredible work man, keep it going!
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There is still time to keep that wonderful 3FE in there! Don’t fall for all the BS about increased power... increased range..turbos and even more power.
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That was a fun scroll through 7mos of very impressive work.
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Thanks Greg. I've run across a few folks from the BMW community on here.
Chase, you make a great argument. Wait, no you don't.
I may know a guy looking for a bunch of 3FE parts to keep his relic running..
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Good progress this weekend. I've proven time and time again that taking things apart is within my wheelhouse. I will be getting everything under the truck disconnected this week and get this 3FE pulled.
AC parts from Cummins arrived at the local parts and service center. Went and picked them up. Luckily there is a cummins parts and service center very close to me so I don't have to rely the online retailers which charge a bit of a mark-up. The bracket on the right rearranges the accessories to make mounting the AC less of a hassle.
AC parts from Cummins arrived at the local parts and service center. Went and picked them up. Luckily there is a cummins parts and service center very close to me so I don't have to rely the online retailers which charge a bit of a mark-up. The bracket on the right rearranges the accessories to make mounting the AC less of a hassle.
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Engine came out on Saturday. Not too much drama which was nice. It's a large powerplant with the transmission attached.
Wasn't a bad days work. On Sunday I got my work bench setup and got after the transfer case. It all came off fairly easily. I'll take it too a machine shop and get it all cleaned up after I hit it with the power washer this week.
Going to get the transmission and toss it up here during the week. Start putting the adapter together.
I'll zip off the front output shaft today. Give a few local engine shops a call.
Everything was in fairly decent shape. I had just done an oil change last year so most of everything is sludge free.
The scene of the crime.
Wasn't a bad days work. On Sunday I got my work bench setup and got after the transfer case. It all came off fairly easily. I'll take it too a machine shop and get it all cleaned up after I hit it with the power washer this week.
Going to get the transmission and toss it up here during the week. Start putting the adapter together.
I'll zip off the front output shaft today. Give a few local engine shops a call.
Everything was in fairly decent shape. I had just done an oil change last year so most of everything is sludge free.
The scene of the crime.
Looking good Nic! Looks like were moving right a long at the same pace! Well deserved beer after getting all that done!
Also reading this reminds me that I've gotta call the machine shop today too, I'm sure it'll be a process getting my stuff in there with all of this COVID going on...
Also reading this reminds me that I've gotta call the machine shop today too, I'm sure it'll be a process getting my stuff in there with all of this COVID going on...
Engine came out on Saturday. Not too much drama which was nice. It's a large powerplant with the transmission attached.
Wasn't a bad days work. On Sunday I got my work bench setup and got after the transfer case. It all came off fairly easily. I'll take it too a machine shop and get it all cleaned up after I hit it with the power washer this week.
Going to get the transmission and toss it up here during the week. Start putting the adapter together.
I'll zip off the front output shaft today. Give a few local engine shops a call.
Everything was in fairly decent shape. I had just done an oil change last year so most of everything is sludge free.
The scene of the crime.
vapor blasting has some really sweet results.
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I am thinking of making my own little hot tank. Just a bucket heater and some simple green.
Just read through all 12 pages! Awesome work! This thread is very inspiring. I've got an 87 60 that's red. I'm currently rebuilding my 2F, then I'll be on to the paint and fun stuff. I'm trying to clean/refurbish as much as I can... it's slow going.
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I got the transmission on my work bench and started building the adapter. The transmission is a 2wd GM 6L80E. The transmission is stamped C7 . I assumed that means it's from a corvette? Maybe someone who knows more can chime in. If you don't use a 2wd transmission, the output shaft needs to be cut down.
My transmission didn't come with a tail stock on it so I didn't have the bolts to hold the adapter on. Ran out and snagged some. The adapter kit feels like a build your own adventure. A bag of bolts, some machined aluminum and some cross section views that double as instructions. There are two snap rings in the kit and they instruct you to swap it out if it doesn't fit on your transfer case. I had to swap mine out. I just took the sealed bearing (below) and tried to fit it into the input port on the t-case. It didn't fit at first, so I swapped out the snap ring. The one I didn't use is shown below. The transmission input wouldn't fit completely with that larger snap ring.
After that was confirmed I pressed the sealed bearing into the last adapter plate and then pressed the intermediate shaft into that.
Good shot of the other snap ring I used.
Took my crusty transfer case housing and confirmed it fit. I'll be cleaning all the t-case parts and start to rebuild it in the next couple days. Looks like the front driveshaft might be a hair close. I'll keep an eye on it, could just be over reacting.
My transmission didn't come with a tail stock on it so I didn't have the bolts to hold the adapter on. Ran out and snagged some. The adapter kit feels like a build your own adventure. A bag of bolts, some machined aluminum and some cross section views that double as instructions. There are two snap rings in the kit and they instruct you to swap it out if it doesn't fit on your transfer case. I had to swap mine out. I just took the sealed bearing (below) and tried to fit it into the input port on the t-case. It didn't fit at first, so I swapped out the snap ring. The one I didn't use is shown below. The transmission input wouldn't fit completely with that larger snap ring.
After that was confirmed I pressed the sealed bearing into the last adapter plate and then pressed the intermediate shaft into that.
Good shot of the other snap ring I used.
Took my crusty transfer case housing and confirmed it fit. I'll be cleaning all the t-case parts and start to rebuild it in the next couple days. Looks like the front driveshaft might be a hair close. I'll keep an eye on it, could just be over reacting.
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I want the land cruiser to have air conditioning. If you do a search for R2.8 and air conditioning you will find that there is a compressor available. What isn't abundantly clear is that it requires some modification to fit and isn't really in the greatest place. Here is a picture of the front of the R2.8.
The top accessory is the alternator. Below that is the power steering pump. Last there is an empty spot. Looks prime for an AC compressor. It's a bit misleading because the AC compressor will be very close to the frame rails and is fairly deep so it might interfere with some motor mounts (you'll see how this is avoided later). I wasn't too keen on putting the angle grinder to a brand new compressor so I kept doing research. I discovered some parts that reconfigure the front of the R2.8. There is a new bracket. They call them "mega brackets". It is surprisingly inexpensive. Here is a list of parts.
Bracket = PN 5286677
Tensioner = PN 5262500
Compressor = PN 5295582
Belt = PN 5254354
M10x1.5mm x 35mm long Quantity 2
M10x1.5mm x 100mm long Quantity 2
With the new bracket there is a suggested change to the tensioner, and a longer belt is needed. The tensioners look identical, but are different numbers. I assume it's got a different pressure spring. It's only 20 bucks so not worth skipping. I ordered all of the above from my local cummins depot and the total bill was a hair over $300. Not bad really considering $200 of that is the compressor. Today I started swapping everything over.
Comparing the new bracket (in hand) and the old.
New bracket "installed". I realized I needed some different hardware at this point.
The new bracket is a bit different than the original. The mounting pads for the fasteners are all the same height on the new bracket. The old bracket was thicker in places. This is why there are a few 45mm long bolts listed above. The below picture is the longer bolts that came out of the old bracket touching the threads on the block If you try to insert them in the new bracket. They are considerably too long.
I also had to close up a small gap between this press-in insert on the bracket and the back of the power steering pump. There is a fastener that goes in from the back there along with three on the front. I bet just tightening down the fastener would work, but I didn't want to break off an aluminum tab or something. A solid tap got it to close up.
Similarly I had to push out this press-in insert that was in the alternator just a little for it to slip over the new bracket. I threaded the long bolt from the alternator through to it and then hit the head of the bolt just a few times to press it out a little. It didn't take much at all.
The longer bolts above, with the nuts are for mounting the compressor. The compressor doesn't come with hardware. Here it is all set.
Here's a few pictures between the accessories and the turbo. These all show the new setup. You can imagine how having the ac compressor on the bottom would be a bit of an issue.
The only real downside to this setup is the inlet to the turbo will have to turn out pretty quickly. Still enough room considering the turbo is so small it won't be quite as gradual as it could be done with the power steering pump in front of it.
Just have to kick out turbo outlet a little. It's on a v-band so it will be easy. Keeping it straight like this would make tubing easier though. I'll figure that out when it's in the truck.
The top accessory is the alternator. Below that is the power steering pump. Last there is an empty spot. Looks prime for an AC compressor. It's a bit misleading because the AC compressor will be very close to the frame rails and is fairly deep so it might interfere with some motor mounts (you'll see how this is avoided later). I wasn't too keen on putting the angle grinder to a brand new compressor so I kept doing research. I discovered some parts that reconfigure the front of the R2.8. There is a new bracket. They call them "mega brackets". It is surprisingly inexpensive. Here is a list of parts.
Bracket = PN 5286677
Tensioner = PN 5262500
Compressor = PN 5295582
Belt = PN 5254354
M10x1.5mm x 35mm long Quantity 2
M10x1.5mm x 100mm long Quantity 2
With the new bracket there is a suggested change to the tensioner, and a longer belt is needed. The tensioners look identical, but are different numbers. I assume it's got a different pressure spring. It's only 20 bucks so not worth skipping. I ordered all of the above from my local cummins depot and the total bill was a hair over $300. Not bad really considering $200 of that is the compressor. Today I started swapping everything over.
Comparing the new bracket (in hand) and the old.
New bracket "installed". I realized I needed some different hardware at this point.
The new bracket is a bit different than the original. The mounting pads for the fasteners are all the same height on the new bracket. The old bracket was thicker in places. This is why there are a few 45mm long bolts listed above. The below picture is the longer bolts that came out of the old bracket touching the threads on the block If you try to insert them in the new bracket. They are considerably too long.
I also had to close up a small gap between this press-in insert on the bracket and the back of the power steering pump. There is a fastener that goes in from the back there along with three on the front. I bet just tightening down the fastener would work, but I didn't want to break off an aluminum tab or something. A solid tap got it to close up.
Similarly I had to push out this press-in insert that was in the alternator just a little for it to slip over the new bracket. I threaded the long bolt from the alternator through to it and then hit the head of the bolt just a few times to press it out a little. It didn't take much at all.
The longer bolts above, with the nuts are for mounting the compressor. The compressor doesn't come with hardware. Here it is all set.
Here's a few pictures between the accessories and the turbo. These all show the new setup. You can imagine how having the ac compressor on the bottom would be a bit of an issue.
The only real downside to this setup is the inlet to the turbo will have to turn out pretty quickly. Still enough room considering the turbo is so small it won't be quite as gradual as it could be done with the power steering pump in front of it.
Just have to kick out turbo outlet a little. It's on a v-band so it will be easy. Keeping it straight like this would make tubing easier though. I'll figure that out when it's in the truck.
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