Propane or White Gas

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You probably could have found a used propane stove for less than the conversion kit.
I never cease to be amazed at the almost brand new camping equipment I find at garage sales. People buy a bunch of expensive stuff, use it once or twice and find out camping really isn't there thing. The gear sits in the attic/garage/basement for five years then they sell it at a garage sale for pennies on the dollar.

$15 for the converter vs. $??? for a used propane triple burner. I doubt it, even the used triple burners (that are worthwile) are a heck of a lot more.
 
$15 for the converter vs. $??? for a used propane triple burner. I doubt it, even the used triple burners (that are worthwile) are a heck of a lot more.
Maybe so.

How well does the triple burner propane stove work? It doesn't seem like my two burner propane stove gets all that hot when I run both burners on full.
 
Maybe so.

How well does the triple burner propane stove work? It doesn't seem like my two burner propane stove gets all that hot when I run both burners on full.

The triple burner works great. The key for me is to have it hooked up to my 20lber. If I hook up one of my refilled 1lbers, the canister starts to freeze up due to being evacuated so quickly. Same is true with my Weber Go Anywhere. However, I always bring some of the refilled 1lbers along for insurance.;)
 
Refilled 1 pounders?
 
The small 1lb cannisters can be refilled if you have the right equipment. Don't overfill them or they can vent.
 
The small 1lb cannisters can be refilled if you have the right equipment. Don't overfill them or they can vent.

I had a feeling they could be refilled. I mean they had to fill them somehow and I see the port for doing so....except, I also saw that was coughagainstthelawcough. I guess they have to cover their a$$ in case something happens.:meh:
 
I had a feeling they could be refilled. I mean they had to fill them somehow and I see the port for doing so....except, I also saw that was coughagainstthelawcough. I guess they have to cover their a$$ in case something happens.:meh:

The only thing against the law is transporting them in your vehicle after refilling. They are not DOT approved after refilling.:meh:
 
Refilled 1 pounders?
I have the fittings to do it and have refilled a couple of them. It's a PITA and you can never get a full 1# back in. If you do it in winter with everything as cold as possible you can get a fair amount of liquid back in. In the summer (when you actually need to fill them) forget about it. That's why I got the little 3# cylinder.
 
Refilled 1 pounders?

Yes, you never need to pay those ridiculous prices for the 1 lbers again.

It's a PITA and you can never get a full 1# back in.

Not so.

I first read this article (Refill Disposable Propane Cylinders! | Navagear.com) and decided to pickup one of the adapters and give it a go about a year ago.

I normally refill 5 or 6 at a time at least, and as my friends have found out about this, I have more bottles to refill.:rolleyes:

Here are the key points for me:
  1. Temperature differential as described in the article. I keep my empty 1 lbers in the deep freezer until ready to fill, and on the day of the fill, I make sure I have a 20lber nice and warm (either set in the sun or soaked in a hot bath).
  2. Make the connections and place the 20lber upside down prior to opening valve.
  3. Once the pressures have equalized (a couple minutes), I make sure that the relief schrader valve on the 1 lber is facing up, then pull slightly on the pin in the schrader valve until liquid propane starts to escape (usually within a second, two at the most).
  4. Close valve and detach 1 lber and load up the next one.
  5. As mentioned in the article often times this process can result in overfilling the 1 lbers, and they will leak out the schrader valve until they are happy again. So store outside for a day before keeping inside due to possible leakage which does not always occur immediately following filling.
I hope this is useful to those who use propane and like to keep some of the 1 lbers around, but hate paying $4-$6 for new ones before every trip. Especially if you get out often!
:cheers:
Nick
 
If you decide to go the white gas route, don't buy the newer dual fuel lanterns and stoves. Go to yard sales, craigslist, etc and buy the good vintage stuff. I have a '45 and '64 vintage 2 burner stoves that work flawlessly. I had a then 2 y/o dual fuel that never would cooperate that I gave away when I got my old stoves. I also have a '64, '71, and '79 (new in the box ;)) lanterns. They are awesome. I did swap out to the newer style rubber pump in them all as I got tired of screwing with the leather. The only thing that I have that is propane is my Zodi. I like the old white gas stuff because I like fiddling with it to make it perfect. It's kind of like my own type of zen garden.
 
White gas is for men. Propane is for women. Thats all there is to it.
 
White gas is for men. Propane is for women. Thats all there is to it.

Well Wyatt, yer gonna ahve to count me amongst the women folk then. Even with my white gas mod (https://forum.ih8mud.com/camping-outdoor-gear/230199-coleman-white-gas-appliance-mod.html), I got sick of the schtuff. Plus with two propane heaters, a propane grill, a propane lantern, it just didn't make sense to keep screwing with white gas for my triple burner. Even with the mod, I had to top the thing off all the time to keep er crankin hot.:meh:

Did you ever fix that Buddy Heater BTW?
:)
 
Did you ever fix that Buddy Heater BTW?
:)

I haven't. I think it needs a new regulator, but I'm not sure its worth bothering with since I got nothing else that uses propane.

I think I'm just going to get or make a heat drum for my coleman single burner stoves. The old ones (Model 500 from the 1940s and 50s) put out quite a bit of BTUs and have tons more character (though obviously aren't as safe).

I do see how having lots of propane accessories would be nice if thats what you got. I was planning on having lots of propane accesories when I was building my 82 pickup to run off the stuff. But then I sold that truck and got hooked on antique camp stoves and lanterns. Theres just something about that old stuff. Same reason I like landcruisers I guess. You definitely have to get intimate with them sometimes, but they seem to have alot more beef and personality.

But that said, I've never had a problem with having to pump my white gas stoves much. Many white gas stoves, Svea or Hunter 8R for example, don't even have pumps, and if you prime an airtight stove properly (admittedly this takes a minute or two), you shouldn't need to pump it at all to start or maintain the flame level.

But, there's nothing wrong with wanting to forego the character of white gas and take the easy route and use the soulless propane stoves. :flipoff2:

Take care. :cheers:
 

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