Piston rings / rebuilt engine

[Curse]

Alright, so I ended up not being able to buy a newer engine to throw in my truck for now.

So what I'm left with is either rebuilding mine or buying a rebuilt engine. Through Schuck's it would be $1700 for a rebuilt 22R (not sure on the company) with a 2 year warranty.

I can't afford this right now, but I'm wondering if that would be the way to go or if I should continue rebuilding mine? I still would need piston rings, and possibly new bearings and apparently I might need a new crank shaft (didn't know that it wore that much).

OEM through my local stealership piston rings are $150, through Schuck's the most expensive they have are $112, but they aren't OEM.

Where should I get rings? Or should I just get a rebuilt engine a few months from now?

[the truck does not *have* to be running any time soon]

[also for those that don't have one, Schucks is like autozone]

 

[84pickup]

i did the entire top end rebuid for my 22R for 1000$ max with a heat treatment/milling of my head with brand new valves, guides, basicly brand new head and new OEM rings and some other stuff i think. i think it was actually around 800 because it was like 700 for the head work and we got OEM rings. i just checked all the bearings the driveshaft for smoothness and stuff and honed the cylinder walls and put it all back together and it runs like a champ with a lot more power than it used to. the only things i really messed with was the head and the pistons/rings and cylinder walls and the crank which i didn't take out of the truck (just rotated it so i could look and feel. i did it all with the engine in the truck. really pretty easy job if you don't have PS or A/C. In my opinion it's OEM or next best and i always do the work on my vehicles because i know it's done right or who to get pissed at if it's not. do you have an Orielly's around? they are generally A LOT better than autobone or the equivalent at least that's how it is here in texas.

 

[PurpleFJ62]

For any part that is hard to get at or is very important, get OEM toyota.

Brake fluid is fine from autozone, but timing belts/chains, piston/rings/rods, etc get the good stuff. Directly from toyota, dont mess with the lower quality knock-offs.

I have had very bad luck with the "made in china" s***.

hope your project goes good. How many miles does your 22R have?

 

[Curse]

For any part that is hard to get at or is very important, get OEM toyota.

Brake fluid is fine from autozone, but timing belts/chains, piston/rings/rods, etc get the good stuff. Directly from toyota, dont mess with the lower quality knock-offs.

I have had very bad luck with the "made in china" ****.

hope your project goes good. How many miles does your 22R have?

Yeah, thats what I was thinking.

Other than a Toyota Car Dealership, where can I find OEM Toyota parts?

P.S. My 22R had 300k before the original chain guides broke enough for the chain to eat through the water pump housing >.<

 

[Tools R Us]

I have heard nothing but good stuff about Ted @ http://engnbldr.com/ good parts, service and price.

 

[Tools R Us]

...
P.S. My 22R had 300k before the original chain guides broke enough for the chain to eat through the water pump housing >.<

His timing chain kit, with metal guides and new cover is $88.

 

[2ndGenToyotaFan]

Yes, engnbldr is good stuff. CruiserDan here on Mud is a Toy parts guy and gives Mudders a discount, and he'll ship them right to you.

I say rebuild it, and do as much as you can yourself. Putting an engine together isn't too tough, just nuts bolts and torque. Have you taken the crank in to see if it can be turned?

 

[PurpleFJ62]

go for it, it can be daunting at first. So many parts to keep in line, but stay organized and keep the FSM by your side. If it helps take photos of everything as you take it apart.
When your done you will feel good that you did it yourself.
300K is very impressive, if toyota parts lasted that long, is there a reason not to use them again?

cheers

 

[iortechnology]

Go OEM Toyota on the rings - or if you can stomach the price, look at LC Engineering's stuff too. They have very high quality stuff if you're upgrading from stock setups, you just pay for it through the nose...

The previous owner of my truck redid the timing chain and front cover 40K miles ago - just before I bought the truck. 10K miles ago, the guides let loose, and I missed Cruise Moab 2007 for a weekend of motor rebuilding. That said, the "made in China" parts lasted for 30,000 miles only. The motor had 250K on it with stock parts...

- Brandon

 

[Huhwhye]

Toyota OEM is good most of the time. As it has already been mentioned Toyota OEM plastic chain guides suck. Get metal ones.

My advice, since I've done 2 rebuilds on these motors is to assemble everything on the stand and drop it in whole. Makes life easier.