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I think that vehicles are an emotional investment at best, as a pure investment vehicles are not real high on the list. I do think a great many use the investment angle to rationalize a purchase to themselves or a loved one. Granted, there are some out there that invest in vehicles and do somewhat well with it, yet investing the same amount in other venues would often yield better returns.
 
uzj100 said:
Manual M2 and manual gt350.

996 911 manual as a driver and slowly remove all unnecessary weight. These are steals right now. With rms and ims bearings replaced u get old school driving characteristics with cold ac.

2s would be best 996.

I am very close to getting a 996 for vir. ;)
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wasn't the last year of a 996 2005 or something?

slceso said:
probably a Wrangler JKU...
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can't see that going up in value

S4Cruiser said:
Dodge hellcat, demon or viper. Think it's the last year of the viper.
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way over the 50k limit


for my choices i'd have to go off of what over the last 50 years have been the best choices for making value.

special edition camaros always do great but the ZL1 and Z28 are over the 50k

certain german cars accrue great value but I can't see one for sale now under 50k that would

A base corvette on a holiday weekend you could get for under 50k but a base model is very common and not really going to put on a ton of value.

Ford rally cars (sierras, RS200, Cosworth escorts) always put on value so a Focus RS at 35k would be a good choice.

Shelby mustang GT350 may be able to be had for under 50k on holiday weekends or on rebates but the 350R is the one that would skyrocket in value.

Can't think of a Japanese car that would be under 50k and go up that much right now. I'm thinking USDM but I still would doubt a 70 series would actually add up in value over 20 years.

Can't think of a current Fiat/Chrysler product either that can be had for 50k and would go up much if at all.

The Romeo is a pretty good bet.

Ultimately though going to the pomona swap meet when I was younger the cars that always had the most profit from base value were the "dealer" edition muscle cars. Muscle cars that dealers made their own with performance parts and still sold them with a warranty. For that the new Mustang dealer editions would be my ultimate safe bet.

Lebanon Ford seems to be the biggest one on the scene these days along with Galpin Ford.
http://jalopnik.com/heres-how-you-can-get-a-500-hp-ecoboost-mustang-for-und-1794414216

a 1200HP mustang for 45K? 550 ecoboost mustang for 30k?

those are my bets..... store them for 20 years and then role them down to Barret Jackson
 
T4R pro... limited production, looks cool... I want mine in concrete. Also the tacoma TRD pro in that blaze orange color.

outside of toyota, I still love the E46 m3 and the E39 M5. IMO, this was the pinnacle of the BMW ultimate driving machine.

Landrover- I think a US version defender will only go up in value. absolutely iconic, rare, and capable to boot.
 
e36 M3 manual.

The 996 was built from 1999 to 2004 and had terrible headlights. There are some covers on ebay europe. Most have had the IMS and RMS bearing corrected and great fun with cold AC.

Defenders are big money already. ;<)
 
I had and raced both a 99 and 03 996, the headlights did change where the 99 had the so called "fried egg" and the 03 where different, I liked the 03. The 997 was the big change. 996 "big deal" was the rear engine watercooled introduction, but avoid the early years due to engine block porosity failures.
E46 M3 would be a great choice too, it would keep up with any 911 too and I like the lines of the E46 vs E36. And the E36 in the US was too detuned, the E46 had the power.

I dont like any 2017 cars under $50K that I think are worth having. Unless you can get a 70 series LC.....
 
The focus RS is a good choice - good point Al.

However, dealers for a long time were putting that premium into the price. Getting one for under $40k was basically impossible. Because of that, the fanboys moved on and it's now sitting on the shelf collecting dust. Friend of a friend wrote an article on that a couple days ago actually:

Mark "Bark M." Baruth, Author at The Truth About Cars
 
jamesurq said:
The focus RS is a good choice - good point Al.

However, dealers for a long time were putting that premium into the price. Getting one for under $40k was basically impossible. Because of that, the fanboys moved on and it's now sitting on the shelf collecting dust. Friend of a friend wrote an article on that a couple days ago actually:

Mark "Bark M." Baruth, Author at The Truth About Cars
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Well damn that sucks, that car is pretty damn cool... ford does amazing when it decides to do rally cars.

I still think they will gain some solid value in the future though when they are finally sold off.
 
In 20 years there will be no oil based gas, according to Al Gore. So invest in electrics, wind powered cars, dog powered sleds.....
 
can a get a small bump in the 50k rule... just a small one I promise

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lt1fire said:
so its not new cars we are talking about anymore?
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Most new cars are extremely blah and will be recycled versus collectible.

The FJ cruiser offering is basically new. I know the price point is high but all the work is done down in South America with inexpensive labor.
 
uzj100 said:
Most new cars are extremely blah and will be recycled versus collectible.

The FJ cruiser offering is basically new. I know the price point is high but all the work is done down in South America with inexpensive labor.
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well that's pretty much new cars during most periods... no one thought a Duster would be a collectors item when it was new, also most didn't think most muscle cars would be collectors items.... wasn't until very late 90's early 2000's that, that started happening 30-40 or so years after many came out. My first muscle car I personally bought a 69 firebird I bought for less than it was brand new. Now that same car would be 15k+ easily even in the poor shape it was in.
that's the good part about the thread is talking about the unknown with new cars.... its pretty easy for us to look at cars that are barely 10 years old or more now to see their collectability.
 
lt1fire said:
well that's pretty much new cars during most periods... no one thought a Duster would be a collectors item when it was new, also most didn't think most muscle cars would be collectors items.... wasn't until very late 90's early 2000's that, that started happening 30-40 or so years after many came out. My first muscle car I personally bought a 69 firebird I bought for less than it was brand new. Now that same car would be 15k+ easily even in the poor shape it was in.
that's the good part about the thread is talking about the unknown with new cars.... its pretty easy for us to look at cars that are barely 10 years old or more now to see their collectability.
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baby boomers are buying the cool cars of their youth... What happens when the baby boomer die out? Kinda like HD road bikes. baby boomers love em. nobody else does... who is going to buy these classics? Millenials? they are to busy manscaping, buying skinny jeans, and making stupid kitty cat snap chat videos...
 
That's a really good point - will cars even be collected by today's youth?
 
tacoduck said:
baby boomers are buying the cool cars of their youth... What happens when the baby boomer die out? Kinda like HD road bikes. baby boomers love em. nobody else does... who is going to buy these classics? Millenials? they are to busy manscaping, buying skinny jeans, and making stupid kitty cat snap chat videos...
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well I aswell as many others here are millenials (1980-1995), with the rest of the group most likely being generation Xers.

but if you have to ask what the newer generations are going to buy

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I am on the young end of the baby boomers at 57. I am into anything say pre 1970 for the most part and when it comes to trucks pre 1954 for the most part. Old and cool sells, period. Anything that has been resto modded to today's daily driver standards is fair game. I think that "pre computer" is the line in the sand.

I am by far no expert but I do keep up on markets and trends and what is being built and sold. Pre computer iron with up to date (computer controlled) drive lines and up to date suspension and brakes are what is selling. There are guys out there building 50s,60s,70s station wagons, throwing in an LS3 with a 6 speed or auto sitting on a Art Morrison frame with a 4 link out back and a Mustang II front end. They handle like a sports car and run great. Same thing being done with late 40s-50s pick ups. Basically the same rolling chassis with your body of choice.

Without going all in show car crazy, but building a very nice daily driver you can have the coolest new old car in town for say $40-70K depending how deep you go. What does that same money get you on the new car market? How long will it last? The only electronics in the vehicle you build are those that you choose.
 
@jamesurq dude you must me slipping.... set you up for a perfect meme
 
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