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clownmidget

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Well, as a taoist once told me to every front there is a back, and the bigger the front the bigger the back...

Been working and playing a bit too much so there's no 80s weekend at the Rubicon for me but I still have my late nights to tinker. So getting started on this and will likely be asking some questions of anyone knowledgeable of turbos.

Mike R.
 
Tain't no safari I know that much? I'm with tooth where did that come from?
 
It's a safari system, just not too noticeable behind all the bling-bling intercooler tubing which is custom. I'm mocking it up on the work bench to sort everything out. The intercooler is APS but different from the US-spec one for the 80 as it has inlet on one side and outlet on other side. The rest appears to be the same using Yomama's pdf manual as a reference (Thanks!). Manifold is cast two piece unit and am looking for local place to clean it up and make sure mating surface is in proper shape. The exterior is oily/dusty partly from being sprayed down for storage and shipping and partly from use and I'm still looking for some input into how to properly clean everything without causing any possible damage. I've not dealt with turbos before so I don't know how sturdy they are, proper solvents to use/not use, compressed air or not, etc., etc., etc. I'm getting ready to tap the holes for the coolant and the oil pan, maybe this weekend, but this is going to be a slow project until I get more time away from work.
Mike R.
 
clownmidget said:
using Yomama's pdf manual as a reference (Thanks!).
Mike R.
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You are welcome! Glad scanning in all that helped someone. I am no turbo expert, but I would think you could use solvent to clean it, but I would be careful where your oil lines go in and out as that passage likely goes through the bearings and if you get any crud in there, it will be toast...
Curious as to why you are making your own plumbing, didn't you get the rubber hoses with the unit, or couldn't you order them as replacement parts from Safari? Seems like allot of work for somethng that should already be available.

Yomama
 
Yomama,
That's what I got and I wasn't complaining. I figured it was a no-lose situation since if it fits nicely it is a bit "cooler" than the plastic stuff and if it doesn't - well then I'll try to get the replacement stuff from APS. The intercooler does fit exactly like the US-spec one you have, in fact it looks identical, except for that outlet on the other side instead of both on one side. Definitely another thanks too for that stuff you scanned in. I think it would still be in the box if I didn't have that.
Mike R.
 
Clownmidget,

If I can give you any information don't hesitate to ask. I should warn you though. Did you get the fittings for the oil and water taps that go into the engine? The ones that came with the kit (mine) were metric or what they call pipe threads. It wasn't easy to find the correct drill bits and taps to make the holes. If you live in CA then it is easier, but me in Minnesota, I spent a couple days going store to store and many phone calls to find the ones for the water fittings. Never was able to locate what I needed for the oil return line so I had to find a different fitting that had coarser threads. Where you go through the oil pan it is pretty thin material and I recommend if you don't have the correct fittings/bits/taps, then make sure you find a fine thread new fitting. The coarse one I ended up using is leaking slightly, not dripping yet, but it is getting that side of my oil pan all wet.

Good luck...The pay off worth it!!!!

Yomama
 
sponge = bad

Wow, August 10th of last year...

Well I got motivated at the end of January, 8 weeks ago!, to simultaneously install Christo's 6 inch springs, do the upper rear adjustable control arm weld-ins, machine out the rear bushing mount on the front lower control arms, do a 1 inch body lift, and install the used Safari Turbo system I got. In the driveway. Well I got really motivated when I realized I only had a week left before the DV trip so I was pretty rushed.

I actually got the basic stuff all done with the turbo but kept the stock exhaust from the cats back for now and kept the boost low (~4 lbs) until I can spend more time on it. The unit I have has a nice cast aluminum pipe that goes from the air cleaner box to the turbo inlet. It was powder coated and the coating was starting to wrinkle and flake a bit. I started to clean it up and noticed how nice it would look polished. Well I got bored working on it one night, set it down and forgot about it as I moved onto other things. Eventually just grabbed it and installed it without giving it a second thought.

Friday morning to leave for the DV trip and I'm actually ready and the truck runs, isn't dripping and the axles are more or less lined up under the truck. I pull out of the driveway to the stoplight at the end of the street. Light turns green and I give it the gas, ready to enjoy the turbo spooling up. Instead I hear a drawn out "whump" and my engine power goes to just above idle. I struggle around the block cursing the gods the entire way. I pull back into the driveway, go inside and reconcile that the trip isn't going to happen and I should just stay home and work. Finally after 3 hours I'm calm enough to go check under the hood to see if I've screwed something expensive. I decided I needed to check to see if the turbo was spinning freely since it didn't seem to be able to develop boost. I pull off the alum intake tube and there crammed into the turbo inlet housing is the 49-cent sponge I was using to clean the inside of the tube. Luckily it was the foam/nylon type and didn't get into the blades nearly as much as it just completely blocked the entire intake. A little shop vac and throttle body cleaner work and withing 10 minutes it was running like a top.

As all surgeons are likely precautioned during their training - Never leave a sponge in the body!

Mike R.
 
That was am ambitious bout of wrenching, hell of a change in your 80, must have required many step #6's

BTW, This thread is worthless without pics!
 
Man oh man, glad it worked out ok. :D That would have been truly upsetting had something so small and frivalous destroyed that much hard work. :eek: So even with only 4lbs of boost it is still truly impressive huh? :bounce:
 
clownmidget said:
... and there crammed into the turbo inlet housing is the 49-cent sponge I was using to clean the inside of the tube.
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LOL!

How about your seat-off-the-pants (sp) impression?

Does it feel like a totally different animal? :D
 
clownmidget said:
Wow, August 10th of last year...

Well I got motivated at the end of January, 8 weeks ago!, to simultaneously install Christo's 6 inch springs, do the upper rear adjustable control arm weld-ins, machine out the rear bushing mount on the front lower control arms, do a 1 inch body lift, and install the used Safari Turbo system I got. In the driveway. Well I got really motivated when I realized I only had a week left before the DV trip so I was pretty rushed.

Mike R.
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Correct me if im wrong here... I dont understand with you guys.. you have the 80 with Turbo equipped but then you lift it up to 2,5, 6 inch springs.Do you really
need Turbo to go Off-Road?
Unless like my suspension setup '5inch down ready to slam Turbo anytime soon.
and YES IH8MUD and I dont go rock climbing :flipoff2:
 
LX_TREME said:
Correct me if im wrong here... I dont understand with you guys.. you have the 80 with Turbo equipped but then you lift it up to 2,5, 6 inch springs.Do you really need Turbo to go Off-Road?
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OK YOUR WRONG! :flipoff2:

NO you don't understand. :flipoff2:

Then again when most of us look at your setup were like WTF??? :confused:

Yes a Turbo comes in handy off-road. :cool:

Were gonna have to agree to disagree. :D
 
That doesn't look like an 80 series torque curve.
 
But does this mean??????????????
Those sure are some nice looking parts & pieces.
Show use the money
 
That's nice stuff but what I was after was:
1) keep stock air cleaner assembly and connection to snorkle
2) keep stock dual battery trays
3) keep normal capacity windshield washer bottle
4) keep wheel well clearance so a 37" mud-terrain could stuff and not crush anything
5) keep durability/dependability as high as can be expected with forced induction
6) have the power to maintain good highway speed/comfort with the mods on the truck for decent trail capability

I think I got that but it's just not super easy or straight-forward. The truck runs great with the low boost and stock exhaust - just not a full "Wow!" response yet since I did have the s/c. I have yet to install the high flow fuel pump from a TT supra or the rising rate fuel reg or the 3" exhaust or the UniChip. That will all have to wait a few more weeks until I can spend more time on it. I'd say now it is about as lively as the s/c but more subtle in the way the power comes on. It feels like the torque is much higher without really dramatically increasing the hp. I was able to maintain pretty incredible highway speeds without downshifting on big uphill stretches - like it could just pull but not reving up to do it with a downshift.

Yeah, you're definitely right - thread totally worthless without pics. I'll try to take some today and post.
 
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