New Toyo Open County AT3 experience?

[NJGX]

I've been looking into potential tires for when my current 255/75R17 Duratracs wear out. I was pretty much set on getting a set of Wildpeak AT3Ws, but recently discovered the new version of Toyo's AT tire. I heard mixed reviews of the AT2 with most negatives being poor snow and wet weather performance, but they last forever and have decent road manners and off road performance. Supposedly, the AT3 fixed the drawbacks by developing a better/modern compound with a revised tread pattern.

Now, my question is if anyone here has any first hand experience with the new Open County AT3? Prices are comparable to the Falkens, but the specs on paper seem to be leaning in Toyo's favor (roughly 10% lighter than same size/load rating Wildpeaks).

For those curious, I am planning to jump to 285/75R17 (34") when the time comes. These tires are just so new that not many people are running them yet, or at least not reviewing them.

Open Country A/T III | The All-Terrain Tires for Trucks, SUVs and CUVs

The Open Country A/T III has exceptional wet and dry braking and handling, great off-road traction, a quiet ride, great in snow and 127 sizes.

www.toyotires.com

 

[Zentoichi]

I just purchased a set but have less than a hundred miles on them so I can't provide much a a review at all. However, they ride and handle very well, are much quieter than I expected and have a great agressive look to them. Cost was $175 each. Kept stock size on my 2006 GX470.

 

[NJGX]

Nice! Hopefully they are as good as they seem and hold up to Toyo's claims.

 

[Mean Green]

I'm looking at them too. My Foam Cell Pro lift is on the garage floor waiting to get installed. The 285/70-17 in load range C might get the nod. I have been thinking about the 255/80-17 too.

 

[bahador]

I just purchased a set but have less than a hundred miles on them so I can't provide much a a review at all. However, they ride and handle very well, are much quieter than I expected and have a great agressive look to them. Cost was $175 each. Kept stock size on my 2006 GX470.

Can you please elaborate more on the sound? What does it sound like on the freeway with the windows up and stereo off? Would it be annoying on road trips?

Thanks

 

[z00t3ch]

The AT2's didn't have "poor" wet weather and snow performance, it's just that the longevity of the tire was its highest score causing the wet/snow performance to take 2nd place priority. People who spend 99% of their time on pavement (99% of us) were happy to have a tire last 55k miles and still be very capable off-road and in bad weather. Toyo is also known for making the "roundest" tire, a title I thought all tire manufacturers should prioritize...

 

[Stob]

I'm eyeballing these for my '94 - 80.

 

[PDXGX]

So I had the the AT 2's and replaced them with Wildpeaks. I was very happy with both tires. Either is a good choice.

 

[Stob]

Yeah, I have the AT2's now. Seem to be a decent tire, about 50% left.
Need to buy a spare and want to buy what I will be using when I replace
all 4.

 

[Mrpinortiner]

Had them on n my 2003 Super Duty.
They wore way too quick for my taste.
Stck with BFG AT KO2

 

[lugueto]

I think AT3s are very recent so long term reviews might be hard to come by at the moment. Wildpeaks do have very good reviews.

I have AT2s right now with about 2 years and15-20.000 miles on them and still look basically new.

I dont have snow, but do have a lot of rain. They arent poor perfoming in wet roads in the slightest, quite the opposite. Road noise is very low.

If the AT3 is an improvement over the AT2, it should be a very good option.

 

[TahoeLX450]

I've been looking into potential tires for when my current 255/75R17 Duratracs wear out. I was pretty much set on getting a set of Wildpeak AT3Ws, but recently discovered the new version of Toyo's AT tire. I heard mixed reviews of the AT2 with most negatives being poor snow and wet weather performance, but they last forever and have decent road manners and off road performance. Supposedly, the AT3 fixed the drawbacks by developing a better/modern compound with a revised tread pattern.

Now, my question is if anyone here has any first hand experience with the new Open County AT3? Prices are comparable to the Falkens, but the specs on paper seem to be leaning in Toyo's favor (roughly 10% lighter than same size/load rating Wildpeaks).

For those curious, I am planning to jump to 285/75R17 (34") when the time comes. These tires are just so new that not many people are running them yet, or at least not reviewing them.

Open Country A/T III | The All-Terrain Tires for Trucks, SUVs and CUVs

The Open Country A/T III has exceptional wet and dry braking and handling, great off-road traction, a quiet ride, great in snow and 127 sizes.

www.toyotires.com

I replaced my Duratracs with Les Swabs Open Range tires and am very please. Super, super, quiet compared to the GY's and works much better on ice and plowed snow. However, with over a foot of snow the Duratrac's are much better as the Open Range clog up and lose traction quickly going uphill. I don't know the Toyo's but my tire guy recommended the Open Range over the Toyo AT's and he carried both. Of course, I was getting rid of the DT's at 25K miles because of the whine getting worse every 1000 miles or so I was emphasizing to him I wanted a quieter tire. Off road neither the GY DT or the Open Range have let me down but then I only use my GX on moderate trails in the Sierra. My main concern is harsh winter road conditions and the Open Range are nearly as good as Blizzaks in the snow and can run all year round. I don't know if this helps but an FYI.

 

[NJGX]

Since there's not a whole lot of info on these tires yet, I thought I'd share my initial impressions so far.

I got the 285/75r17 load range C installed Labor Day weekend. They are mounted on some new Tandem 612 Charlie wheels (17 x 8.5 ET -12mm) and come in at a total of 82 lbs per corner. The tire shop said they mounted up perfectly fine and the one that took the most weight to balance was only 2.25 oz.

There are two sidewall options that you have the choice of showing. One is very understated, the other is slightly more aggressive, but still not anything crazy. The aggressive side has raised lettering and some grooves molded into the sidewall lugs. Below is a side by side comparison. Again, there's not a huge difference, so if you want a meaner looking tire, I'd look elsewhere.

The on road ride is fantastic so far. I am coming from some 255/75r17 Duratracs and the noise difference around town and at highway speeds is significant. I guess I got used to the hum of the Duratracs over the years, but the Toyos are so much quieter. I can actually hear my exhaust note now going down the highway instead of it being drowned out by the Goodyears. The Toyos feel grippy and stable in dry weather. Rain is finally in the forecast, so I will have to wait and see how they do in the wet.

I have not had a chance to get them off pavement yet, but I expect them to perform at least on par with other ATs like the KO2 and Wildpeak AT3W. The voids between the tread lugs are pretty evenly spaced out, so I expect them to not be terrific in heavy mud. Like I mentioned earlier, the sidewall is not as aggressive as other tire options, so that may impact traction when aired down for more difficult terrain.

Overall I am pleased with them. Time will tell how they hold up both on and off road.

 

[Couvi]

I’m thinking about putting these tires on my LC, any more updates @NJGX ? Thanks

 

[NJGX]

I’m thinking about putting these tires on my LC, any more updates @NJGX ? Thanks

I like them a lot so far. I live in the Pine Barrens of NJ, so the terrain is mainly sand and mud with some loose rock thrown in there. The Toyos perform at least as well as the old Duratracs on steep and loose hill climbs. I have noticed ATRAC is not engaged as often, but that may just be due to the overall footprint difference between the old and new tires causing less slip.

No changes from my initial impressions for on road handling and comfort. They handle rain and standing water well. I frequently read of Falken Wildpeak AT3W owners complaining of vibration caused by shops not being able to balance them. I have zero vibration with the Toyos at any speed. Let's hope for a real winter this year so I can try them in some snow. As of now, the Duratracs were by far the best non dedicated winter tire I have used in the snow.

If they last as long as I hope they do, I will probably rebuy them. They just feel like a heavy all season tire on pavement and a grippy AT off road. I also like how the sidewalls are relatively understated in design compared to a few competitors. Once I get my new bumper, I plan on hitting Rausch Creek where I can see how they hold up to some heavier wheeling.

 

[Couvi]

I like them a lot so far. I live in the Pine Barrens of NJ, so the terrain is mainly sand and mud with some loose rock thrown in there. The Toyos perform at least as well as the old Duratracs on steep and loose hill climbs. I have noticed ATRAC is not engaged as often, but that may just be due to the overall footprint difference between the old and new tires causing less slip.

No changes from my initial impressions for on road handling and comfort. They handle rain and standing water well. I frequently read of Falken Wildpeak AT3W owners complaining of vibration caused by shops not being able to balance them. I have zero vibration with the Toyos at any speed. Let's hope for a real winter this year so I can try them in some snow. As of now, the Duratracs were by far the best non dedicated winter tire I have used in the snow.

If they last as long as I hope they do, I will probably rebuy them. They just feel like a heavy all season tire on pavement and a grippy AT off road. I also like how the sidewalls are relatively understated in design compared to a few competitors. Once I get my new bumper, I plan on hitting Rausch Creek where I can see how they hold up to some heavier wheeling.

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Thank you, I really appreciate it. I’m glad you’re liking them. I have a set of Continental Terrain Contact ATs on now with about 55k, they’ve been great but just had a sidewall puncture on the interstate, so now I’m looking again. Leaning towards these because of good reviews and like the look as well.

 

[runtherabbit]

I have been a big fan of the Toyo AT2s, having had three sets: one set of 34s on the Jeep, which is lifted 2.5", and two sets of 33s (275-70 R18) on the '06 TLC, which is lifted 1.5" by Slee. The ATIIs were excellent in the Colorado snow and as manageable as any all-terrain tire on the super-slick bentonite impregnated mud on the western side of the state. The off-road and (90%+) on-road capabilities kept me coming back to Toyo. The two areas I wanted improvement were: quicker erosion of the brakes you get with the TLC and any tire larger than stock and performance in heavy rain. I have just purchased my fourth set of Toyo ATs this week, but this time I bought 32" AT3s (275-65 R18) for the new, unlifted ('18) TLC. The new ones are getting good reviews especially for snow and wet performance, but time will tell. And, they look great

 

[Couvi]

I have been a big fan of the Toyo AT2s, having had three sets: one set of 34s on the Jeep, which is lifted 2.5", and two sets of 33s (275-70 R18) on the '06 TLC, which is lifted 1.5" by Slee. The ATIIs were excellent in the Colorado snow and as manageable as any all-terrain tire on the super-slick bentonite impregnated mud on the western side of the state. The off-road and (90%+) on-road capabilities kept me coming back to Toyo. The two areas I wanted improvement were: quicker erosion of the brakes you get with the TLC and any tire larger than stock and performance in heavy rain. I have just purchased my fourth set of Toyo ATs this week, but this time I bought 32" AT3s (275-65 R18) for the new, unlifted ('18) TLC. The new ones are getting good reviews especially for snow and wet performance, but time will tell. And, they look great

Good to hear. How about a photo of those new tires? Thanks!

 

[Autolykos]

I'm looking for someone who went from the toyo AT II to the III and can compare road noise directly. Or second best would be a comparison to the KO2.

I find KO2s to be pretty loud. To be fair, I mostly have bought used tires and mounted them myself and I'm told that the KO2s start out quiet and get loud as they wear. I've only had worn ones. But worn KO2s are much louder than worn toyo at2 s in my experience. I've been very happy with the at2 other than wishing it had a more aggressive appearance.

I got a new (to me) rig that came with Ko2s installed and I want to get rid of them and put new treads on it. I love the look of the toyo at3 but it looks like it must be substantially louder than the at2 so I'll probably buy the at2s (unless I see another great deal on used tires).

 

[McDuff123]

No direct experience, but a good friend JUST replaced his KO2s on his 4Runner with the new Toyo AT3.
He‘s amazed by how much quieter and smoother-riding the Toyo’s are (though he did go from an E rated tire to a C). So impressed that he put a set on his wife’s Subaru today (took off the KO2’s he had on it...).