Need help splicing Amsteel Blue (1 Viewer)

[Joe70]

For some reason I cant find the detailed instructions (w/pics) thead that explains how to end to end splice synthetic rope. I know they were on this site somewhere a couple of months ago but now I can't find them. Could someone please help to direct me to the right spot? I am supposed to go wheeling/camping on Saturday and it would be real nice to have a useable winch.

Thanks.

 

[Behemoth60]

For some reason I cant find the detailed instructions (w/pics) thead that explains how to end to end splice synthetic rope. I know they were on this site somewhere a couple of months ago but now I can't find them. Could someone please help to direct me to the right spot? I am supposed to go wheeling/camping on Saturday and it would be real nice to have a useable winch.

Thanks.

I believe that you just feed the two ends inside each other. About 3 feet of total overlap. At least, that's how I've done it with success. Spliced section is supposed to be 90% as strong as the original rope.

Peter Straub

 

[Joe70]

Apparently I had this board and Pirate4X4 mixed up. For anyone who needs instructions on how to end for end splice, check out pirate4X4. The instructions include pictures and are really easy to follow.

Thanks for the quick response Peter.

Joe

 

[Joe70]

I believe that you just feed the two ends inside each other. About 3 feet of total overlap. At least, that's how I've done it with success. Spliced section is supposed to be 90% as strong as the original rope.

Peter Straub

How many times have you broken your winch line? I just discovered that my splice didn't let go, it broke in a new spot. I've read, and been told that synthetic is stronger then steel cable but my experience tells me otherwise. I wonder if maybe I just got a bad batch or something. Right now I'm thinking that I threw $500 down the drain.

Joe

 

[chet]

I think your synth probs have more to do with conditions. Have you been getting the rope really muddy?

 

[Joe70]

I think your synth probs have more to do with conditions. Have you been getting the rope really muddy?

Yes I have gotten it pretty muddy. I usually hit it with the pressure washer when I get a wash, but of course that only takes off the top layer. How does mud affect the integrity of the rope?

Other then the mud, I would say that I am using it under pretty good conditions. I have an aluminum fairlead. I make sure that the rope never rubs on anything. I always use a treesaver, and 90% of the time it is a straight pull. What else is there?

 

[Greg_B]

here: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177344

hth's

gb

 

[mallred]

Amsteel is a good rope but the wear factor is not good in mud or in my case dried salt, wonderfull product when it first came out but there is better ones out there now, some with coverings.

try www.hampidjanusa.com the have a product called DUX that comes from Iceland were they use syntetic rope to winch threw the Ice fields. It is a much better product IMO. The last that I bought was $3800 for 145' of 33 mm line with a breaking strenght of 200,000lbs. They will link to were they have dealers here in the states for 4x4 winches.

Myrle

 

[Joe70]

Amsteel is a good rope but the wear factor is not good in mud or in my case dried salt, wonderfull product when it first came out but there is better ones out there now, some with coverings.

try www.hampidjanusa.com the have a product called DUX that comes from Iceland were they use syntetic rope to winch threw the Ice fields. It is a much better product IMO. The last that I bought was $3800 for 145' of 33 mm line with a breaking strenght of 200,000lbs. They will link to were they have dealers here in the states for 4x4 winches.

Myrle

How many feet of 33mm winch line can you get on say a Warn 8274? By my calculations it would be only around 50' or so. Am I missing something?

 

[Behemoth60]

I was watching when your rope broke on Fischer Trail... If I recall, it broke where it was peeling over the fairlead.

I broke mine three times in a few minutes, but it was clearly my fault. I was on a glacial moraine with nothing to winch too but a very large rock - much larger than any of my straps would wrap around. So, I just rant the rope around the rock, and put the hook directly onto the rope. The hook sliced through the rope like a hot knife through butter. It took me three times before I decided that the process was fairly reliable!

Other than that, I've never broken mine in 5 years of fairly hardcore wheeling. The weakness is definately when getting cut. The new 'fairllead' I built for TippyR is 1.5" pipe (about 2.5" OD) so as to ensure a fairly rounded and smooth entry through the bumper. I spent a lot of time with a die grinder getting it perfectly smooth, then had it powder coated with a semi gloss finish, and so far so good.

I've not replaced my winch line since I got it in 2001. Before I switched to rope, I was replacing winch cable once per year, and *should* have been doing it more frequently than that!

Peter Straub

Peter Straub

 

[mallred]

How many feet of 33mm winch line can you get on say a Warn 8274? By my calculations it would be only around 50' or so. Am I missing something?

Not very much 33mm on a truck winch, the 33 mm was for my fishing boat in AK. with the casing it was about 1 1/4 " in dia. but I know they make smaller for truck winches.

 

[brownbear]

this should be in outfitting, not international tech, sorrry......