Monday recon of Hale

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John and I are taking a trip up to Hale on Monday to check out the site, maybe clean up a bit, etc.

We will be meeting at 10:30am at the Sasquatch Inn for anyone interested in going. I'll probably have my kids so family friendly would be the word.
 
Got an e-mail reply back from Steve and his okay to post it here:

"The thing with Hale is that the MTSA provides all of the materials. I
talked to them a year or so ago about the material choice and they've
found that wooden tables are cheaper and actually last longer than
concrete ones. They tried concrete a few years ago I understand and
found that at the end of the year they were looking at piles of gravel
instead of tables. I'll talk to them about it again. They'll
definitely supply all of the materials though.......for whatever we
decide is the right thing to do....

.... it'll be done on one of the monthly
runs....not sure if everything will be available for us for the April
run, but certainly by May. So, 2nd Saturday of May. In May we're also
thinking about starting the second run of the month -- if I can find
someone to host it! Interested???????"

Steve is open to using different materials. MTSA pays for the material and we provide the labor. I am sure if we think about it, we can design something strong enough to be associated with the Coastal Cruisers. Maybe somthing like this one below but solid cement and rock all the way through with plenty of rebar and or angle iron in the top.

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Bill, can you put the second maintenence run on the agenda for the April club meeting? 4WDABC hosts one with the Herd of Turtles. Maybe the Coastal Cruisers could host the second one. It would help raise the profile of the club and give back a bit to the community. I would be glad to be part of this if we did it on Sundays. Saturdays, I am often working.

 
I think that is a great idea, John. If member of the 4WDABC were to take care of one maintenance site, it sure would lighten the 4WDABC load which likely falls on a few people.

As far as the table goes, I think it should be 'stamped' with a huge label, courtesy of 4 wheelers or something. Maybe it would be respected more.

On the other hand, how naive am I?
 
kim said:
As far as the table goes, I think it should be 'stamped' with a huge label, courtesy of 4 wheelers or something. Maybe it would be respected more.
I was actually considering someting more direct like a few bear slug 12 guage shot gun shells hidden in a wooden table top. Okay, just dreamin... I think.:rolleyes:

Honestly, the people who destroy the stuff now don't give a damn either way. There are or were signs that these sites are maintained byt the 4WDABC and it hasn't helped.

I do think it would be great if we could sponsor one run a month or every two months to take the load off of Steve and a couple other guys. The Land Rover club is doing the Whipsaw for the 4WDABC. And by default it has been Steve and a few from the Herd of Trutles doing the other sites.
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There was a time this club embraced such ideas... Clear Creek ring any bells?
It would be great if we could post some of the old photos of Clear Creek on our website. I know Gary T. has a ton of photos.
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Helping on the maintenance of these sites is a good idea, it's amazing how fast people manage to destroy the effort that goes into these places. BUT, I think Steve and the 4WDABC would be happier to see a strong member club presence at the regularly scheduled maintenance runs first. If enough people came out they would likely divide the workforce and cover more sites in one day.

As much as I support the idea/cause, I personally have only gone out to lend a hand twice in the past year or so. Once I was the only cruiser out, the other time Drew was there as well. The Herd of Turtles are out there every month, rain or shine. I don't mean any disrespect by this, but if we take on a site, we will have to have the manpower to follow through on the obligation. But yes it would be good for the club image to be more active on this stuff.
 
Trip report

Well it was just Kim and his family and his two dogs and I and my son and our dog that showed for this "family oriented" trip. Somehow, whenever we say "family oriented" things tend to get a bit hairy.:censor:

After waiting until about 11:10 AM at Sasquatch, we headed off up the road. Kim lead the way, with my trusty:rolleyes: backroad map book in his co-pilot's hand. Neither of us had been to Hale before. At km 22 Kim pulled off to the right under the power lines. We consulted the book. Yep, this has to be the "easy way" in. The map book showed this as a "solid line" road while what appeared to be another .5 km up the road was a fragmented line road which of course had to be the hard way in. It didn't take long for things to get steeper and narrow. One spot we stopped and Kim used my Swede saw to cut out a tree blocking our way. Next thing Kim is stopped again. We get out and the road has become a boulder field creek bed. Kim took a line to the right and got off it a bit which moved a rock hanging one of his right rear shackles on to the top of the boulder he dislodged. With some rocking back and forth and some pulling on the bolder we got the 60 off the rock. Then it was my turn. Kim guided me through the line to the right I had chosen. I just took one good bang. When we finally made the rest of the easy route down to Hale Creek, I was expecting carnage on both rigs. Realize that both of our rigs are stock with sagged springs. :frown: At Hale we had a good look but had no leaks or new dents we could see. I was sure I put a big dent through my fuel tank skid plate and into the tank.

Anyways, we got a fire going, the kids and dogs had some fun, and we had some food to eat. At 4:30 we decided we better get going out the other trail which we hoped was the "easy" trail. I had no winch, so again I got Kim to lead the way. At least if he got stuck he could winch out and then winch me up. The "easy" way soon became a washed out creek bed and then followed a number of creek crossings and smaller cross ditches. On the last creek crossing, the far bank had been badly erroded. Kim took a line a little to the right which bounced him hard on a big bolder up on top. I think he will have to have a good look at home to see if he turned his exhaust into a 1". I took a line to the left which was not as rough. However, I slid a little to the right and slamed my rear right rim into a rock taking a chunk out of the lip of the alloy. Luckly it did not bust the bead. When we finally got up to the main FSR we discovered we had come out only about 10 meters from where we went in.:bang: Ya, I really trust that map book now.

It is kind of difficult to say which is the the hard or easy way into Hale. The road to the North has a lot more creek crossings and big cross ditched in addition to a section that has the creek running down it. The road to the south just has the one section with the creek running down it and which is a boulder field. I suspect that after the spring melt hits both these roads, they will be in the same condition. I would not want to take the North road during a heavy run off.

I don't think it being tougher to get in will make any difference to the garbage and destruction. Some people just have that type of personality and lack of values, whether they drive a rig set-up to make it in or not.
 
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