Just wondering if there is any point in switching stock Land Cruiser Aisin hubs to heavy duty warn hubs???
Locking Hubs
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Warns seem to have replacements more readily available. Both do the job.
If I get the meaning of your question, the Warn hubs are NOT considered an upgrade from the Aisin hubs. In fact, the Aisin hubs are widely considered the strongest manual hubs you can run, short of a drive flange.
andrew7elk said:
Stick with the Aisin hubs, better. Take yours off, clean them and service them. I just did that too mine and they have never been so smooth.
KLF said:
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Yikes!! Doesn't look good.Sheesh. While it'd be nice to upgrade, at around $500 for a set of Aisins, I hope those warns last me a while. $180 for a pair of warns, I guess that says something about the quality. But then again, it's a toss up between breaking less often or being able to afford the replacements when they do break.
I guess if I already had Aisins I wouldn't put warns on. But they seem like a good trail spare option to have on hand.
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Remember this...The Aisin locking hubs have a steel main body. The Warns have some mystery pot metal that they cast into a main body. The Aisins are much stronger, and likely as strong as the drive flange used on an 80 series. Used Aisins are not too expensive if you shop around but new ones are $$$. Marlin Crawler used to referb old Aisin hubs and sell them at an excellent price. There is no way I would run Warns instead of Aisins, and in fact, I swapped my 76 FJ40's knuckle out assembly to get Aisin hubs and a standard birfield.
...or consider your hub the "fuse" of your 4wd system. If the Warn is weaker (and much easier to get to), use a Warn and carry spares. Maybe it saves you an inner axle, maybe a birf?
Just a thought.
-Ken
Just a thought.
-Ken
Mace said:
I read somewhere that a hub is most likely to break while pointed straight, and since a birf is most likely to snap when turned crank to crank that the hub will break when the birf never would have.
Didnt Warn do hubs that were a "fuse" for awhile and pull them off of the market cause they sucked so bad?
You got it.
They actually still have the hub fuses available. They are hard to find tho. There is a reason bobby came out with the longfields.. Bulletproof is good
They actually still have the hub fuses available. They are hard to find tho. There is a reason bobby came out with the longfields.. Bulletproof is good
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stinkyfj60 said:
HAHAHA. That's just sad.
Mace, you've probably a lot more experience in this than I ever will. All I was getting at was to recognize potential weak spots in the system and try to make things stronger that are more difficult to repair on the trail. The hub probably wasn't a good example of this, and it's not about building in an intentionally weak point, but realizing that when you upgrade other components you shift the *potential* breakage point toward something else.
There's no simple and pat solution because we all drive differently and like driving different types of terrain or difficulty and with vastly different styles.
My point was to think about where you're changing your system and how it can affect you out on the trail in the worst place.
There's no simple and pat solution because we all drive differently and like driving different types of terrain or difficulty and with vastly different styles.
My point was to think about where you're changing your system and how it can affect you out on the trail in the worst place.
Knowing where the issue is does have it's positive side. You can plan for it and have spares.
However, all you need to do is go with longfields and pig inners and not have to worry about breakage at all.
even if you just upgrade to longfields. 99.99999999998% of the 60 owners will never have a single issue with breakage..
One of the reasons people didn't like the hub fuses was due to them breaking the diff locker when they let go... Plus the U joint would typically give out in a turn as well.
However, all you need to do is go with longfields and pig inners and not have to worry about breakage at all.
even if you just upgrade to longfields. 99.99999999998% of the 60 owners will never have a single issue with breakage..
One of the reasons people didn't like the hub fuses was due to them breaking the diff locker when they let go... Plus the U joint would typically give out in a turn as well.