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[salty*joe]

I just bought a locked 96 lexus and am planning to put a isuzu 4bdt 1 motor in it.
The plan is as follows so far: ( I am new at all of this so excuse the dumbassnous that may surface)
Isuzu 4bdt 1 motor
GM 700 R4 tranny with the an overdrive to go 80mph with 33's (.67?) mated with the Isuzudieselswapper (Dave) adapter
Transfer case from a 60 series LC?
I got the idea from a friend of a friend in CA that did a cummins swap and said if he could do it again he would do it this way
I don't know much about Landcruisers or diesels but this will allow me to stop buying Tahoes, start running more sustainable fuel, and own a bad trail rig.
Other plans
OME 2/1 inch lift
33's
bumpers/sliders/intercooler
Any help in my quest is appreciated
motor swap will happen in the spring when the snow melts (I am in ketchum idaho)

 

[Isotel]

Sounds like a Sweet Project! keep us updated on the progress!

Why not just do the 4bta Cummins?

 

[salty*joe]

The cummins is loud and heavy and requires a 4 inch lift
I wouldn't mind any of that, but my wife needs to shuttle clients in this truck

 

[fj80toyman]

Salt, where you at, man?

Location is directly proportional to the physical help you might get.

Anyway, sounds intriguing, take pics all along the way.

Dan.

 

[ThePookieBear]

Hey salt. Another route you might check is the Isuzu 4HE1. It is a 4.75 litre direct injected turbo/intercooled diesel. However...the best part of it is that is uses the Aisin AW450 transmission which shares the same bolt pattern, and case as the A440, and A442 which you have i think in your lexus. Just a thought. Look up the thread Isuzu 4HE1. Oh and the power is about 175 hp at 3000 rpm and 350 ft/lbs torque at around 2000 i believe. Good luck either way.

 

[rtarh2o]

I think the 96 uses the A343? transmission?

 

[salty*joe]

I started to read the long ass thread from last regarding this sort of swap. There is great info in there, but there is a lot to filter through. I am set on the 4bd1t and I think the 700 r4. If any of the main participants WHO HAVE DONE THIS CONVERSION in an 80 from last year's thread would want to shoot me a line that would be great. I have very limited knowledge as I have never owned a LC before.
Thanks, JOE

 

[Tapage]

I have very limited knowledge as I have never owned a LC before.
Thanks, JOE

Joe .. for this part of your post I'm sure you are in the right place .. but your conversion are not usual ( not at least here ).

Here in mud you will found much help and much more members with real huge diesel and cruiser acknoweledge that can helpo you even if they don't know much about Isuzu engines ..

 

[brownbear]

salty joe.... have you considered just using a 1hd-t engine from a diesel 80 series? Then it would be all Toyota.

 

[salty*joe]

I haven't considered it because I started to look for complete diesel LCs and cuts (from Spector) and the prices seemed to blow up. Do you know what kind of costs are involved for a rebuilt 1hd-t? I like the Isuzu because they are sleeved, rebuild kits are 1500 and the task seems do-able. Could my tranny in the Lexus bolt up? That would be huge. I am not looking for the trickest swap in the whole world, I am just looking to run a diesel 80. My Lexus tranny has 122,000 miles on it. Would it need a rebuild? Probably.
Thanks for the input, JOE

 

[ThePookieBear]

Well, you could possibly use your lexus tranny with the Isuzu 4HE1. However, the transmission that comes with that engine is the AW450 which would bolt into your factory transmission mounts as it shares the same case as the tranny you have now. If you read the "Isuzu 4HE1 Swap" thread it is less than a page long and is looking to be a great swap. It will answer alot of questions.

 

[roscoFJ73]

salty joe.... have you considered just using a 1hd-t engine from a diesel 80 series? Then it would be all Toyota.

X2 The initial cost of an Isuzu diesel may seem low but by the time you pay for parts to be modded or customised to suit an Isuzu,it may well surpass the cost of using a toyota diesel.

IMO the will appreciate of the silky smoothness of a 1HD T over the truck like characteristics of an Isuzu 4.2
The Isuzu are an excellant engine but are designed to pull around 4 ton meat trucks all day.

I would also bet that the Toyota diesel will be up and running while the Isuzu is still on the drawing board.

I would imagine in NA the toyota diesel would be an attractive selling point when it becomes time to sell

 

[Dougal]

X2 The initial cost of an Isuzu diesel may seem low but by the time you pay for parts to be modded or customised to suit an Isuzu,it may well surpass the cost of using a toyota diesel.

IMO the will appreciate of the silky smoothness of a 1HD T over the truck like characteristics of an Isuzu 4.2
The Isuzu are an excellant engine but are designed to pull around 4 ton meat trucks all day.

I would also bet that the Toyota diesel will be up and running while the Isuzu is still on the drawing board.

I would imagine in NA the toyota diesel would be an attractive selling point when it becomes time to sell

One major problem though.
The Isuzu engine exists as a road legal item in the US, the 1HD's do not.

 

[Tapage]

One major problem though.
The Isuzu engine exists as a road legal item in the US, the 1HD's do not.

This it's a great point .. I vote for the Izusu ( I'm a 226% Cruiserhead but ) just for kett it street legal, and more if you aren't worryed for all the noise that produce all Izusu engines .. ( much more noise and shake than any Toyota diesel engine )

 

[ozwick]

One major problem though.
The Isuzu engine exists as a road legal item in the US, the 1HD's do not.

Dougal,

Isn't the Isuzu considered a medium duty engine. If so, this is not a legal swap into the light duty cruiser is it???

ozwick

 

[Dougal]

Dougal,

Isn't the Isuzu considered a medium duty engine. If so, this is not a legal swap into the light duty cruiser is it???

ozwick

Dunno, I don't live in the US.
But finding an Isuzu is a lot easier than explaining to customs why you're importing an engine they've never heard of.

 

[polarweasel]

The legality of the swap is really going to depend on where you live, in the US at least. In California... I wish you luck. In Colorado, where I am... no worries, so long as it passes the diesel emissions test for the class of the recipient vehicle (in this case, the 80).

 

[BillyGHusk]

The legality of the swap is really going to depend on where you live, in the US at least. In California... I wish you luck. In Colorado, where I am... no worries, so long as it passes the diesel emissions test for the class of the recipient vehicle (in this case, the 80).

ditto here in Washington, when I registered my FBJ60 all I told them was it was now a diesel. Also had to make sure they knew that when I went for emission. It passed with flying colors and I have a title that lists engine type as diesel.

 

[salty*joe]

I am in Idaho. I will be registering the lexus when I get it.(with gas engine) Then I will do the swap this summer. Then I will do nothing about registration. Does anyone see any issues? Are you supposed to re-register a car when you change the engine? What are diesel emissions like compared to the stock gas motor?
Thanks for the inputs, I'll shoot a picture when the car gets here next week
JOE

 

[arcteryx]

I am in Idaho. I will be registering the lexus when I get it.(with gas engine) Then I will do the swap this summer. Then I will do nothing about registration. Does anyone see any issues? Are you supposed to re-register a car when you change the engine? What are diesel emissions like compared to the stock gas motor?
Thanks for the inputs, I'll shoot a picture when the car gets here next week
JOE

Look at Idaho's DMV. They'll have a section on swaps.

Before I even bought my rig, I made SURE I could register it in TX. Went down to the Inspection station and asked the inspector about emissions. Told him it was swapped out for a diesel. No prob he said, it's all visual. That's how it is here. Of course, the owner had a title that said diesel as the fuel type, so I had a recourse.

Keep us informed.