Land Rover Series II

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I figured with the catchy title, I might get attention, but hear me out. I'd like your opinions on this; it's been bugging me. I have an unlocked '96 LC & love it immensely. However, I really like the old LR's too, as do a lot of LC owners. There's an old fellow (wealthy beyond belief) who has a late '60's Series II wagon sitting outside his barn while having a new barn built. I drive by it every once in awhile & want to just stop & ask him to sell it. He knows what it is, and has 3 sons who also know what it is. However, I think they think it's worth more than it actually is. It's in GC, but it is unrestored and has been in barns for the past 35 years.
I know SII's aren't as easy to live with as a LC, but man - what an opportunity. It might involve taking $ from a retirement account which of course is worth about 1/2 of what it is 15 months ago. But you only live once.
Would you offer to buy it? At what cost?
Just asking for opinions, no flames necessary.
 
price varies on frame condition...how is it?
 
unknown; I looked at it abt 2 yrs ago & was amazed at it's condition (considered being barned for 30+ years). Based on that plus low miles (around 40k?) I guess (ONLY a guess) frame is ok, but would certainly look at it first.
 
The part about the family knowing what it's worth and the fact that out would take money out sound like indicators to me that maybe the one with your name on it may be a little further down the proverbial road. I've always fancied a sII myself, but find myself drawn to the d90. I know it couldn't take the thrashing and dunkings that I'm known for giving. Now if it was a hj45 or sixty my response would have been different...
 
Hey,
if you want to drive the car and not only look :wrench::hillbilly: at it,
I would rather go for an old LandCruiser or if you cannot withstand the charm of the SII rather get a cheap SII body and place it on a working Cruiser base...


I have been driving LandRover for years and sold it to get my first BJ45, wich made life a lot better....:D

but who ´s in love has to learn the hard way....anyway :hillbilly:

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If you have to take money out of a retirement account, you can't afford it.
 
One man's treasure is another man's junk.

My old man had a SIII SWB (4 cylinder petrol motor), it made 4wding a challenge. I bought an '80 Patrol - leaf sprung etc - so not like we're talking any major technological improvement.

I drove the SIII around some of the bush tracks in Perth. The next w/end I drove the exact same tracks in the Patrol. What was a 'challenge' for the SIII was a cake walk in the Patrol.

The old man soon after traded his SIII for a similar SWB patrol as mine, just in petrol versus my diesel.

So, to put it simply, if you want a challenge when 4wding - buy the SII, if you want to have fun when 4wding enjoy your 80.

Oh, and just because there's aluminium in parts of the SII body - DON'T assume they don't rust - there's lots of metal and metal on aluminium that just loves to rust away. The aluminium also develops stress fractures on various parts of the body.

Anyhow, your $, I wouldn't waste mine on an old LR product. Too many folk believe the old pictures of LR's traversing areas of the world, they did that with horse and cart too - some of us have moved on since then :)

cheers,
george.
 
IMO, the value of rovers is only truly valuable to rover enthusiast. Sure a Series 2 will be worth more than a series 3, but even if it looks good, the frame will be shot, and every piece of steel that was used inthe wrong place will be rusted out. Everywhere that steel touched the aluminum will be crazy to remove etc...
The motor if it's the petrol isn;t worth much, and the axles are about the same. The wagons are cool, and I'd build one one day as an expo rig, but i;d build a new frame and put a different drivetrain in it. basically, the only thing valuable to me would be the body!

Check over on discoweb, you see Old wagons going between 3k-7k all the time...so i wouldn;t jump on it because the think they are sitting on a gold mine.
 
I love it when Sönke replies to threads...gives me an excuse to look at his sick rig!! Sorry for the semi-hijack but it's hard to resist.

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I have a '67 series IIa Dormobile that I have owned for 12 years. The last 5 years it has been sitting in my garage while I rewire it. In a similar timeframe I bought a '94 80 series that I have put ~150Kmiles on (its at 192K right now) - The 80 series is my daily driver/work truck/mule. They are so different I can't begin to compare them. Good luck with whichever route you decide.....
 
Offer what you think it is worth and no more. Be prepared to walk away. FWIW I sold an LC80 to buy my SII. I love it but I did not get it to thrash on trails. By the way, the 80 had been poorly maintained by PO and I ended sinking a lot of cash in it - sold it because I didn't "trust" it.

Once the LR bug starts itching it is best to scratch it and you will either love it or hate it. I have a really long boring story about mine but won't bore you with the details. It involves <50 miles of driving.
 
nice,nice

iptman said:
I love it when Sönke replies to threads...gives me an excuse to look at his sick rig!! Sorry for the semi-hijack but it's hard to resist.

this is one sick rig !!!!!!!damn,,,,,I envy you....I'm scratching lottery tickets as we speek, so if I win big maybe you'd sell it to me?????
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this is one sick rig !!!!!!!damn,,,,,I envy you....I'm scratching lottery tickets as we speek, so if I win big maybe you'd sell it to me?????
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chassis and bulkhead

even if the body looks perfect look at the bulkhead and chassis condition closely that's where the drama will be

I have a fj40 but still need
a bj40
fj45
series 2
series 3
defender
unimog
jeep m715
m101
boat
etc
etc
:)
 
Since 1967 I have owned three Land Rover Series II- i 88 and 2 109s. THey are reliable and sturdy if you how to operate them and where there weaknesses are . That being said there is nothing a Land Rover can do that a Land Cruiser cannot do better. It is simply a better machine, from the 40 series onwards.

Now a series II LR does have a certain charm, if you have a taste for English auto engineering. I would not, repeat not, deplete my IRA to buy a Land Rover or any other car. They do not increase in value. Your IRA was not created for you to have fun with.

BTW, I still have a 1966 109 with a pick-up cab and right hand drive. It has been sitting in my shed without its tranny for about six years. The tanny went to Pasadena to be rebuilt and then dissappeared into the vapors of southern California. I doubt if this truck will ever run again.
 
I remember seeing a Series II a couple of years ago, just sitting on the lot of a local gas station for a couple of weeks. So I ask the mechanic what the deal was...in for repairs again...he says, so I ask how much if he wanted to sell...his response...Oh, these are very very expensive...I laugh and as I walk away mentioning that he should check on the web...they can be had for 5 to 10 grand in decent shape...needless to say, he wasn't so nice to me after that.

My point...everybody thinks they have a car made of gold :lol:
 
Other than the frame the forward bulkhead ( fancy word for firewall) is know to have corrosion issues especially near the fresh air vents and where the doors attach. This corrosion is often very difficult to detect. The rear cross member (frame) is another weak point on most vintage Rovers. The 2.25 litre engine is bullet proof
( possibly because it does not have enough power to hurt itself:))
As I guess you realize the Series ll and llA transmissions are not sync'ed between first and second gears.
.......1978HJ45
1963 Series llA
1967 Series llA
1971 Series lll ( my sons )
1995 D-90 ( given to my son )
 
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