Waiting for my Stage 3 FCP Lift kit from Ironman to come in. My rig has KDSS and I was looking at the Treaty Oak KDSS Spacer kit and wondering if I need it. Opinions?
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I doubt it.
I have the kit, but with the non-adjustable Ironman Nitro setup. The kit helped, but I still need to put some trim packers on the passenger side.
Your FCPs are adjustable up front, via threaded collars. You can dial in your lift, and dial out lean, using these.
In the rear, no adjustability but unless your really very picky, any lean should be minimal (because of the front being level).
I have the kit, but with the non-adjustable Ironman Nitro setup. The kit helped, but I still need to put some trim packers on the passenger side.
Your FCPs are adjustable up front, via threaded collars. You can dial in your lift, and dial out lean, using these.
In the rear, no adjustability but unless your really very picky, any lean should be minimal (because of the front being level).
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Thanks. I'll skip it and use that $ for something else - there's always something, like O2 sensors.
The rear KDSS spacer would be advantageous for extended travel suspension as its known to rip KDSS cylinder when suspension over extended. Although I don't understand why the front only comes with one side spacer. The logic was because it would hit the skidplate. Which is a known problem even on some aftermarket skid some hit the cylinder without extension.
This is marketed mainly for people that have lean issue. I run 2" lift last two years and did experience a lean issue a few times after off road but level itself after a few days.
Your new suspension are standard travel so you can safely run it without KDSS spacer. It can easily added at later time anyway.
This is marketed mainly for people that have lean issue. I run 2" lift last two years and did experience a lean issue a few times after off road but level itself after a few days.
Your new suspension are standard travel so you can safely run it without KDSS spacer. It can easily added at later time anyway.
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Thanks.
speaking of IM and KDSS..I like the looks of the spacer kit with panhard adjustments...
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The geometry seems to make sense (if just from a brief and topical review), where the KDSS ram is in a different place when lifting a rig 2", thus the nad-aid spacers to level the vehicle, but that doesn't address the replaced KDSS ram when lifted. By spacing the sway bars down that would replace the KDSS rams appropriately and revive the KDSS' added articulation, but then the panhard and skid contact becomes a thing because of changed geometry related to lift.
While I appreciate treaty Oak's pioneering the spacers , I think a more comprehensive kit would be good. I think Dob's has adjustable panhards now, but Im has stepped in with a spacer kit and adjustable with kinked panhard bar... that seems like a win win...
Wouldn't us KDSSers be over the moon to have 2+" suspension lifts AND retain full KDSS functionality/articulation gains, so we can play with the other 2+" lifted rigs and still have that KDSS advantage/advance of just a scosh added articulation?!!
Adjustable Rear Panhard Bar Kit | KDSS Compatible for Toyota 4Runner (
Finally, there’s a solution for the KDSS crowd who want to lift their trucks but can't because the KDSS sway bar system won't let your new suspension droop without the stock panhard bar swinging / smashing into the driver’s side KDSS downlink clamp. This amazing kit was engineered to correct...
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The geometry seems to make sense (if just from a brief and topical review), where the KDSS ram is in a different place when lifting a rig 2", thus the nad-aid spacers to level the vehicle, but that doesn't address the replaced KDSS ram when lifted. By spacing the sway bars down that would replace the KDSS rams appropriately and revive the KDSS' added articulation, but then the panhard and skid contact becomes a thing because of changed geometry related to lift.
While I appreciate treaty Oak's pioneering the spacers , I think a more comprehensive kit would be good. I think Dob's has adjustable panhards now, but Im has stepped in with a spacer kit and adjustable with kinked panhard bar... that seems like a win win...
Wouldn't us KDSSers be over the moon to have 2+" suspension lifts AND retain full KDSS functionality/articulation gains, so we can play with the other 2+" lifted rigs and still have that KDSS advantage/advance of just a scosh added articulation?!!
after my 11 FJ 8.2 swap with modified KDSS mount point, my panhard is straight and no longer rub with the rsb mount. I believe i gain back the droop from oem plus some more. I still have the Treaty oak road installed but no PCK.
