Jointer question

[Junk]

Never did much woodworking, but have a few projects coming up. If I buy a decent older 8" jointer, do I still really need a planer? There's a local dude, with a big ole jointer with new knives in great shape (how the fawk would I know).

It's 220v 3ph - guessing about a 5' table and heavy.

 

[john_eckels]

You still need a planer in order to get the uniform thickness.

 

[dkroth]

Never did much woodworking, but have a few projects coming up. If I buy a decent older 8" jointer, do I still really need a planer? There's a local dude, with a big ole jointer with new knives in great shape (how the fawk would I know).

It's 220v 3ph - guessing about a 5' table and heavy.

Yeah, you still need the planer.

So you've got 240 3ph in your shop. Cool.

You also need a table saw for ripping and cutting sheet goods. And a miter saw for cutoff and angles. And a router with assorted bits for putting edges on stuff. And a router table. And about 100 clamps. And dust collection for all the sawdust you'll be making. And a spray booth for finishing. And a compressor. And maybe a shaper. And a lathe. And a drill press. And a bigger shop. And...

 

[splitshot]

So you've got 3ph in your shop. Cool.

That was going to be my first question.

 

[D'Animal]

I agree.

You still need a planer in order to get the uniform thickness.

 

[KLF]

Starting a woodworking hobby will make working on old Cruisers seem like a bargain. Better have the wifey take your credit cards away now...

 

[Junk]

So you've got 240 3ph in your shop. ...

Prior to inventing the web, Al Gore invented phase converters.

Most of the other junk I have in the garage is 3 phase as well.

 

[FJ40Jim]

I thought Zebra came in the night and took all your 3ph stuff, cause it was dangerous to leave you with it unattended.

Just sayin'

 

[zebrabeefj40]

Nah, Jim. I only took a couple of the metal working tools. I left him a bigarse table saw on one of my trips. He's got MORE than enough stuff to chop up the bodies...typical Jersey resident IMHO.

Nick

 

[spressomon]

Starting a woodworking hobby will make working on old Cruisers seem like a bargain. Better have the wifey take your credit cards away now...

No s***! The list of specialty tools, to build anything of interest and quality, is daunting. Not to mention all the space they take up!

 

[FJ40Jim]

No s***! The list of specialty tools, to build anything of interest and quality, is daunting. Not to mention all the space they take up!

X2, The space is the killer. From local Craigslist I picked up a rockwell/delta cast-iron table saw for $75, a like new better quality Skil router & aluminum table for similar, looking for a miter saw and stand now, but this sh!t is big and heavy. There will be no way to get my wife's car in the garage if I buy one more tool of any consequence.

 

[EricG]

The point of a jointer is to get a straight, square, smooth edge on a board. The you run that edge along the fence of a table saw to get the other edge straight and parallel to it.

The point of a planar is to get the wide surfaces of a board smooth and of uniform thickness.

 

[Radd Cruisers]

First tool I purchased was a delta unisaw, bunch of senco nail guns, biscuit jointer Delta.

First jig I built was a a sled in which the lumber could be fastened and made strait on the table saw with a high quality ripping blade.

"Rob

 

[john_eckels]

you can pick up a "lunchbox" planer for around $250. I have been using the one in the link below for about 10 years now. It's planed a lot of lumber. It's slow and you have to work in small batches but it does a good job.


Amazon.com: DELTA ShopMaster TP305 15 Amp 12-1/2-Inch Portable Planer: Home Improvement

 

[Junk]

I thought Zebra came in the night and took all your 3ph stuff, cause it was dangerous to leave you with it unattended.

Just sayin'

It's all been replaced. You're right though about the space. I picked up 4 truck loads of steel from south jersey over the last 2 weeks. Between that and all the other crap I had to do all my grinding out in the snow. My son said he never saw black snow before

 

[hammer1]

make sure the infeed and outfeed tables are true, and the adjustments are smooth.
Just some thought.....
If your wanting to do more woodworking, and space is a problem, a GOOD radial arm saw can do the job or a miter saw, table saw, and alot of other stuff. That wa my first tool, way back in the 80's. I since have bought probably 50g's worth of machines. If you can afford a good one now, buy it.

 

[Junk]

I passed on it. I’ll use the shaper to get one side straight instead of using the jointer. Then parallel the other side on the TS. Found a clearance on the dewalt planers, so picked one up for under $200. So I should be good to go.

At least with the smaller stuff I don’t have to worry about zebra showing up with a 300 yr old tractor.

 

[zebrabeefj40]

At least with the smaller stuff I don’t have to worry about zebra showing up with a 300 yr old tractor.

I fixed it. It's been clearing the snow off the driveway just fine. But yer safe since it's in IN now and no where near yer shack in Buggerville...



Nick

 

[Dragon'Ass]

Yeah, you still need the planer.

So you've got 240 3ph in your shop. Cool.

You also need a table saw for ripping and cutting sheet goods. And a miter saw for cutoff and angles. And a router with assorted bits for putting edges on stuff. And a router table. And about 100 clamps. And dust collection for all the sawdust you'll be making. And a spray booth for finishing. And a compressor. And maybe a shaper. And a lathe. And a drill press. And a bigger shop. And...

Or you could get the hand tool habit. My $125 #8 Bailey jointer will flatten a 20" wide x 12/4 plank that would take $5k worth of industrial grade power tools to get the same results.

Remember that the width of your planner is going to determine the maximum width of your project.

My recomendations would be #4, #5, #7 Bailey (Stanley) planes, a 16" - 18" bandsaw, and if you have to, the widest surface planner you can afford. Then I'd look at a 1 hp and a 3hp plunge routers. Only then a decent tablesaw (decent deepends on your needs but I'd seriously recomend a Sawstop) Only then would I look at getting the biggest heaviest planner you can find, but they usually need a lot of tlc and someone who knows how to tune them.

 

[Junk]

Or you could get the hand tool habit. My $125 #8 Bailey jointer will flatten a 20" wide x 12/4 plank that would take $5k worth of industrial grade power tools to get the same results.

Remember that the width of your planner is going to determine the maximum width of your project.

My recomendations would be #4, #5, #7 Bailey (Stanley) planes, a 16" - 18" bandsaw, and if you have to, the widest surface planner you can afford. Then I'd look at a 1 hp and a 3hp plunge routers. Only then a decent tablesaw (decent deepends on your needs but I'd seriously recomend a Sawstop) Only then would I look at getting the biggest heaviest planner you can find, but they usually need a lot of tlc and someone who knows how to tune them.

Screw that. Only hand tool I need is the one in the shadow of my gut down there somewhere.