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neoworm said:
Well I guess I'll be the bad guy. Half my Pfran leds are burnt out. The map lights are not the same color, the red ones are so dim they are useless and the reverse lights are not that bright IMO.

Shipping was quick. I just don't think they are as great as everyone else seems to. I've switched them all back to the originals.
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Have you talked to Paul about this?
He will make it right by you.

I do agree, The red bulbs are a bit dim and I'm going to put the other ones in he sent me but the door, second and third row LEDs are awesome and you can read a book in the back of our cruiser. If yours are not 100 % better than your stock bulbs you should ask him to replace them.

I bought the back up LEDs a long time ago and they were much better than the stock ones.
 
neoworm said:
Well I guess I'll be the bad guy. Half my Pfran leds are burnt out. The map lights are not the same color, the red ones are so dim they are useless and the reverse lights are not that bright IMO.

Shipping was quick. I just don't think they are as great as everyone else seems to. I've switched them all back to the originals.
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Paul will work with you and I will tell you polarity matters with LEDs. Can't fathom your statement about the reverse lights. Haven't tried the red ones.
 
Ya I have no doubt Paul is a good guy and would do what he can to fix them. I'm just relaying my experience with the product.

It would have been more hassle than it was worth to me so I just took them out. I just don't think they are as awesome as everyone says and I would have rather spent my money better.

Live and Learn. It's just my $0.02. I find people tend to really hype up a lot of this aftermarket 4x4 stuff when in reality the quality is mediocre. I'm not convinced the LEDs are any brighter. They are just whiter which appears brighter maybe but is kind of harsh. I'd love to see some actual data.
 
neoworm said:
Well I guess I'll be the bad guy. Half my Pfran leds are burnt out. The map lights are not the same color, the red ones are so dim they are useless and the reverse lights are not that bright IMO.

Shipping was quick. I just don't think they are as great as everyone else seems to. I've switched them all back to the originals.
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I had some issues with a few of the first ones I got. Paul mentioned that he got a bad batch. He replaced them and the new ones are going strong. I wonder if yours were from said batch.
 
neoworm said:
Well I guess I'll be the bad guy. Half my Pfran leds are burnt out. The map lights are not the same color, the red ones are so dim they are useless and the reverse lights are not that bright IMO.

Shipping was quick. I just don't think they are as great as everyone else seems to. I've switched them all back to the originals.
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I'm suprised to hear that. I had one 48 LED panel go bad. I emailed Paul to say I wanted to buy another one. What did he do? Sent me 2 for free right away! I didn't expect them to last forever, but the new one I got is still going strong a year later.

Every other light is still part of the original set I picked up from him. Including the reverse lights. There is NO question the interior LED's are brighter than the stock interior lights. Way brighter even. IMO Toyota's interior lighting is horrible. My 4Runner was the same way.
 
Ya maybe I got a bad batch. I had a few burn out right away. Some of the others flickered. I didn't find them that bright.

Anyway my experience doesn't seem to be the norm so that's good.
 
This first batch had a bad solder problem. 2nd batch is stellar.
 
PFran interior and backup leds here. More light than i need now. I think my reverse lights are better than my headlights now.
 
Hey Guys,
Paul is very easy to work with and stands behind his product... however I ordered the original set off the first batch and sure enough a lot of the leds in the 48 panels went bad. I contacted Paul and he sent replacements right away(at no charge).
Problem is that now again half of my leds in the 48 panels are eather flickering or are out...
I just ordered another set for a B-day gift to my brother who also has a 99 LC and wanted to upgrade..., but I noticed on Pfran's website that the large panels look different now then they did before, so maybe they are better???
My new order should be arriving in a day or two... so I 'll keep you guys posted.
 
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Got PFran kit along with the reverse for 04. They are brighter for sure inside. The back up actually causes my reverse camera to be over exposed making it kind of useless at night. Just my. 02$
 
This is what I want to order.

100 Series - Interior LED kit
Add L​ED li​cense​ plat​e lig​hts? Yes
Add L​ED pa​rking​ ligh​ts? Yes
Add 5​W CRE​E rev​erse ​light​s? Yes
 
99toylc said:
Hey Guys,
Paul is very easy to work with and stands behind his product... however I ordered the original set off the first batch and sure enough a lot of the leds in the 48 panels went bad. I contacted Paul and he sent replacements right away(at no charge).
Problem is that now again half of my leds in the 48 panels are eather flickering or are out...
I just ordered another set for a B-day gift to my brother who also has a 99 LC and wanted to upgrade..., but I noticed on Pfran's website that the large panels look different now then they did before, so maybe they are better???
My new order should be arriving in a day or two... so I 'll keep you guys posted.
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It's strange some, people have had two sets go on them and then the 3rd lasts forever. I keep good track of customer support cases involving bad panels and the failure rate is under 3%. Shoot me an email to support@pfranleds.com and I'll send you some additional panels.

slimbuddha said:
I also had three of the big panels burn out fairly quickly.. I just replaced them with some really cheap ones I found on amazon. The rest are fine.
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Same for you. Send an email to my support email address and i'll get replacements out to you immediately.

The Mack said:
Is there anyone or place I can order and have this kit shipped to Mexico?
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I have shipped a lot of kits to OZ, GB, and Canada. Send an email to info@pfranleds.com and I'll take care of you!



For the rest of the Mudders reading this thread, if you have any panels (or any other bulbs) go out on you, let me know and i'll replace them. I incorporated a customer support replacement inventory into my business plan as the sales model revolves around providing a "value" kit. Sure, I could spec a kit that uses Surefire assemblies and price them at $700 but then I wouldn't sell very many! The original intent with the kits was:

- Provide a a substantial increase of cabin lighting
- Take the leg work out of having to research and spec the kits for your vehicles
- Offer a value proposition for purchasing a number of bulbs in bulk
- Provide great customer service

One last thing...If you purchased a kit and are not satisfied, just send me an email and I'll refund you. I've probably done 3 or 4 of these a year. As long as you are not trying to take advantage of some pretty lenient CS policies, I have no delusions re: the fact that there will be some people who simply, A) don't like the product or B) have had a negative experience with the product. My job is to reduce "B" as much as possible without having to upwardly adjust the price.
 
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Just wanted to say, I am satisfied with the kit, no need to ship out another set. Things happen, you are a reseller, and the products were as stated, a considerable value over the prices I found at the time for the kit.. sometimes we all just get a dud. They last at least 6 months before I started having problems, and it was just the panel lights, all the rest are still working with no problems.

No reason you have to eat the cost of it, but thanks for the offer.
 
Hey Paul I ordered entire bulb kit, and CV boot kit (which I really am hurtin for) on Monday or Tuesday. I never got any shipping notice or correspondence besides the receipt from PayPal. Any idea as to an ETA here? Thanks in advance, looking forward to the LEDs! pwcummings@gmail.com
 
Guys,

I received another set of LEDs from Paul for my brothers '99 LC and he installed them right away!!
The previously mentioned 48Led panels are different now... they are more flat than the old onces(the old individual bulb like bubles are gone) and the bulb socket connectors are not glass but plastic spring loaded assemblies - making the whole panels easier to fit inside dome light housings.
They also seem to be better quality - looks like a big improvement over the first generation !!
Oh yes and the light color is softer / warmer !!

Thanks Paul
 
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