Inexpensive 2F conversions

[vtcruiser60]

This forum is great if you have spent 2 years saving money for the conversion of all conversions.
Like many out there, I am not in that camp with my stock 84 FJ60.

If you have some knowledge on less expensive motor swaps, please share your thoughts. For example, can a 3FE be swapped into a 2F with minimal conversion costs? Are there other Toyota motors that install easier than American V8 motors?

 

[swank60]

I think a 3FE would be the easiest switch - and I'm just speculating here. With the older 60, there's a spacing issues if you're going to put in one of the 5 spd trannies, but it works fine on newer 60s - I think they made a change in '85. Not positive on this. Anyway, that leads me to believe that there may be some issues with lining up the transmission/drive line.

You'd also have to put all of the computer and smog equipment in the 60, too, for the 3FE. But, as I understand it, if you put a new FI Chevy engine in it, you have to do that too.

I'm not sure why you'd go from the 2f to the 3fe - it would still be trouble with not a lot of gained benefit (don't get me wrong, I love the idea of fuel injection...but still, there's not that much more HP, torque, or mileage) - if I were to convert, and go for the easy route with little hastle, I think I'd try to find a Toyota diesel to put in. At least then you'd get some mileage out of the thing...I think there's an I6 diesel that went into the BJ60s, not positive though, but I wonder if they'd pass emissions here in the US?

 

[Devils Paw 80]

Someone else on this forum alerted me to the following website as a good source for diesels. http://www.gscruiserparts.com/engines.html

Don't think they'd be inexpensive, but IMO the way to go if you don't want the 3FE, which would probably be the cheapest. I like my 3FE- except for gas mileage.

 

[fsusteve]

There was an article in Trails a few years ago where a guy swapped a 3FE into a 60. Went well in the end but was a alot of work to make the wiring harness work right, try a search at LCML.

 

[swank60]

I forgot about the wiring...

If you went with the BJ60's diesel, you could probably get a BJ60's wiring harness and stick it in...with the 3FE, you'd have to butcher what you've got, or have one custom built (read $$$$)

 

[vtcruiser60]

I was curious about the 3FE in place of a 2F because I have access to two good motors, relatively cheap. Also, I was reading on another post that the motor mounts for the 2F actually fit the 3FE mounts. But, I don't know about cooling, wiring, transmission, etc.

 

[swank60]

Cooling shouldn't be a problem at all with a good radiator...with the one that I bought for mine, I'd bet you could put a V8 behind it, and it would be happy.

Getting the motor is one thing, but all the crap that goes with the FI would be another chunk of change altogether.

 

[Pskhaat]

You can exhange the front mounts 2F/3F-E (though the 3F-E mounts have different accessory holes). Cooling isn't as much of an issue as I thought it'd be. I run a new 3 core radiator and that's a small one on a 40. No issues on the tranny, just a LOT of wiring.