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[2badfjs]

anyone have this issue while trying to paint/primer steel?
i'll lay down a couple 2-3 light coats of the white primer.
wait overnight to make sure the first coats are dry.(i can even scratch them and no chipping of the first coats)
ok, here's where the fun begins.
this has happened before so i only sprayed an out of the way area.
lay the black down on a small area and walk away for about 15 minutes.
come back and this is what i get

all layers of primer are now WET!
if you look on the gusset, i've pushed all layers of primer with my finger.

i've e-mail rustoleum and waiting on their response.

bad batch of black?
chemical imbalance?(maybe on my part)

jim

 

[ff347]

Crackle sliders- your a visionary!


Why not try some of their industrial coatings like the Industrial Enamel 7400 series. Roll it, spray it, paint it .

 

[WES1977]

you may want to state at what temp you applied it and the humitity. I'm sure they would ask.

 

[2badfjs]

i'm laying Duplicolor over the white primer now.
no issues whatso ever.

i was painting within temp specs with very little humidity.

 

[WES1977]

is the black also a primer? A guy at my work says it's cause you used 2 diffrent types of primer.

 

[2badfjs]

is the black also a primer? A guy at my work says it's cause you used 2 diffrent types of primer.

yea, both primers.

same mfg. different primers.

my duplicolor seems to be laying on pretty nice.

thanx

 

[lavarunner]

what happend iss this....

laquer based paints are never dry, you could have gone wet one wet but you let it dry, then you put paint over it and softened the substraight it expands and then cracks. sorry to say but it isnt the rustolems fault. ok. so you gotta sand this 100% off.. (use good primer then cheap paint if you wnt.) anoter method would be to spray a MUCH lighter coat for the first 2-3 coats of paint. (fog coat) with 20 min inbetween each coat. let it dry creating a Lock down coat hen you can paint. I am also guessing you are haveing a not enough flash time inbetween coats. make any since?

 

[2badfjs]

what happend iss this....

laquer based paints are never dry, you could have gone wet one wet but you let it dry, then you put paint over it and softened the substraight it expands and then cracks. sorry to say but it isnt the rustolems fault. ok. so you gotta sand this 100% off.. (use good primer then cheap paint if you wnt.) anoter method would be to spray a MUCH lighter coat for the first 2-3 coats of paint. (fog coat) with 20 min inbetween each coat. let it dry creating a Lock down coat hen you can paint. I am also guessing you are haveing a not enough flash time inbetween coats. make any since?

YES SIR! THANX

 

[e9999]

basically, you just invented the crinkle or hammered finish...?

shoulda done that a few years back, you'd be rich...!

 

[Cube Dweller]

had the same issue. basically what lavarunner said. follow the flash time directions carefully on the can, when i do that I have no problems.

BTW, I've found that when rattlecanning, using a self etching primer like the Duplicolor gives MUCH better adhesion that regular Rustoleum primer. Gamble $5 on a can and see what you think.

Oh, I also found that spending the $30 for a decent respirator w/ filters and prefilters makes huge difference. No more black snot, and when I'm done spraying the garage and remove the respirator, the fumes are almost overwhelming.

Which reminds me of another thing. If you switch to mig w/ gas, think about wearing a mask. E70S wire is high manganese, which is hard on your kidneys and the damage is considered irreversible. I was in the welding supply Friday and 3M has a bunch of masks and filters for respirators that will keep it out of your lungs.

Another public service announcement from Cap'n Safety

 

[2badfjs]

had the same issue. basically what lavarunner said. follow the flash time directions carefully on the can, when i do that I have no problems.

BTW, I've found that when rattlecanning, using a self etching primer like the Duplicolor gives MUCH better adhesion that regular Rustoleum primer. Gamble $5 on a can and see what you think.

Oh, I also found that spending the $30 for a decent respirator w/ filters and prefilters makes huge difference. No more black snot, and when I'm done spraying the garage and remove the respirator, the fumes are almost overwhelming.

Which reminds me of another thing. If you switch to mig w/ gas, think about wearing a mask. E70S wire is high manganese, which is hard on your kidneys and the damage is considered irreversible. I was in the welding supply Friday and 3M has a bunch of masks and filters for respirators that will keep it out of your lungs.

Another public service announcement from Cap'n Safety

thanx Cap'n!!

i do wear a real good resirator now (thanx to my wife)
no gas when welding, but i will wear the more expensive dust mask when welding and cutting/grinding.

gonna rig up an evac set up with filters to keep the fumes from lingering.

jim